Posted on 05/03/2020 8:01:56 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
Governors and mayors across the nation have claimed that their emergency powers allow them to ban large groups during the coronavirus pandemic. They don't want groups gathering in malls, movie theaters or even churches, despite the constitutional protection of religious rights.
Now one official is moving into extreme territory, demanding churches provide him with the names, addresses and telephone numbers of anyone who shows up to worship. The move by Quinton Lucas, the mayor of Kansas City, Missouri, already is attracting the attention of Liberty Counsel, which has been defending churches amid the coronavirus lockdowns.
Liberty Counsel founder Mat Staver noted Kansas City is requiring that churches "submit list of members and attendees along with their names, addresses and telephone numbers to city officials for tracking and surveillance purposes."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Still a gross violation of the first amendment. Do they keep a list of everyone who goes to Wal Mart?
(I'm a Messianic Jew)
Well with millions out of work already, how many taxes will all states lose esp. those that are run by tyrannical Dem. governors.
Don’t worry, Barr has directed all of his states attorneys to be on the lookout for constitutional abuses. You can count on it. /s
Then the story is not sensationalized in any way, but is confirmed.
I have never been REQUIRED to provide a real name and physical address to attend a church service.
Did they make the same request forthe local mosque?
If not, sounds like religious discrimination.
That was a joke, yes?
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Quinton Lucas ... ah, DUI guy. Oct 2018.
This. It covers churces, synagogues, mosques, funerals, weddings; in other words, gatherings. They have to note names and when they came/left. After 30 days they can discard them.
Their stated reason is to speed exposure tracking if needed.
Debate away armed with these facts. Sorry I didn’t keep source; it was in an earlier FR article I read early this a.m.
Crap article.
The city has a procedure which asks churches to collect names of attendees so illness outbreaks can be vectored to attendees. The churches are supposed to keep these records unless a big outbreak occurs.
Needless? Probably. 1984- not really.
Poorly written alarmist fAke news.
Thanks for the link I like to see both sides of the story. There is so much slanted news to get people emotions up in recent days. I am learning to research first before reacting.
Yes the story has been sensationalized from my first read. But here is my but: Thinking a little deeper what can keep this code/law (what every they call it) from being abused?
from article: “Enforcement will also be a tricky dilemma for authorities”
Can local Enforcement request a list if they think a Church is not in compliance with 10/10/10 rule?
If they pass a code requiring the church to hold the records for 30 days, what keeps their code enforcement going out and enforcing the code? The Mayor’s word?
The mayor needs to put in writing when the list can be requested and only the mayor can make request.
I am thinking of world past history on how list were used and abuse.
The Republican Senator from Louisiana John Kennedy, in an interview, gave answer to question as “Short answer, No! Long answer, Hell No!”
Works here for me!
They state the 10 minute rule of exposure as being a concern.
Absolutely that is 1984 like,and you are outright lying.
I have never had to provide a name and physical address to attend a religious service.
In the other thread we looked up the actual stupid ordinance. How’s that for me lying. Sure it’s still a stupid ordinance but it’s an outright fear mongering twisted headline. I am disgusted when WND goes to bait us just like WaPost or CNN.
When does this regulation EXPIRE, that is key to me! IT MUST HAVE AN EXPIRATION! If not then it is tyrannical and in-your-face violation of multiple rights!
I can see a non-public list kept within the church under lock with each page destroyed after 30 days. Court order required for disclosure ONLY IF proof presented of disease exposure. List requirement ceases with end of emergency.
Consider the new normal when we come out of this as we are assured that we will. We have some who have threatened to PERMANENTLY close violators. Just the use of such language should be grounds for removal from office!
Shared this on the thread yesterday, here’s the city’s website explains it
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