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As in Black Lives Matter vs All Lives Matter so in IT

Some data matters vs all data matters.

We know that COVID-19 targets the elderly, the obese those with weakened lungs, heart, liver, kidneys and other organs. Does COVID-19 target Obese Blacks differently than Obese Asians? Does COVID-19 target Black smokers lungs differently from white smokers lungs? Does COVID-19 target mourners at the funeral of a Black who died of COVID-19 and had spread it already to a few at the funeral so they could spread it to others... Does it target Black funerals differently than white funerals. We know that nursing homes bussed residents to church where they exchanged the virus with residents of other nursing homes, and with the general church goers. Does it target Black church goers differently from white church goers?

I don't know. Just asking. Others concerned about race should be asking these questions.

1 posted on 04/29/2020 12:54:16 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

Hard to say about obese blacks vs obese Asians because there are so few obese Asians. As for the rest I don’t see why it would affect blacks more than others with the same risk factors. But definitely count on the Left to find a way to blame evil Whitey.


2 posted on 04/29/2020 12:59:18 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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3 posted on 04/29/2020 12:59:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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Was this crap studied?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3839699/posts

4 posted on 04/29/2020 1:01:56 PM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped.)
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To: spintreebob

Thanks for CV19 data.


5 posted on 04/29/2020 1:02:05 PM PDT by ptsal (C Bust the NVIA)
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It is possible the disparity is connected to vulnerability of this virus to UV rays, and absorption of sunlight by pale-skinned people.


6 posted on 04/29/2020 1:02:14 PM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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There are lies, damned lies, and the misuse of statistics.

When comparing some factor (say Covid19 deaths) between two populations (say A and B) without correcting for cofactors, the assumption is that Population A is the same as Population B in ALL other respects.

Here, that assumption is not justified. Hence, this is misuse of statistics in order to arrive at a predetermined conclusion.

8 posted on 04/29/2020 1:13:11 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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A lot of individual things make data.

To only use some of those things does not make for accurate data.

To state that it impacts people of color would be true based on some data.

We know right now that rest homes are hot beds for Covid activity. How does that play into the data? How many of those worked or were residents in rest homes? Population density? Public transportation?

Many, many more points of data need to be collected before stating the “WHY” of it all.


9 posted on 04/29/2020 1:16:37 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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Good post.

I want to know how many ILLEGAL ALIENS have the Wuhan Virus. NYC has at least 1.2 million illegals and is the epicenter of our pandemic. How many got the tests while in limited supply, consumed ventilators, ICU beds, etc.


10 posted on 04/29/2020 1:17:02 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: spintreebob; FormerFRLurker; BenLurkin; ptsal; Redmen4ever
This is most likely due to people with darker skin having lower vitamin D levels:

Probability of Vitamin D Deficiency by Body Weight and Race/Ethnicity

"Conclusions:
The effects of skin color and body weight on vitamin D status are large, both statistically and clinically. At typical target concentrations of deficiency (below 20 or below 30 ng/mL), those with darker skin colors or heavier body weights have a higher probability of being vitamin D deficient. Knowledge of these effects may facilitate the diagnosis of vitamin D deficiency."

There is a sad familiarity to the distribution of this disease, if one reviews the history of rickets:

Rickets before the discovery of vitamin D

"Progress in studies of the causes and treatment of rickets suddenly moved much faster, in the period 1917–1922. At the beginning of that time, Huldschinski33 advocated ultraviolet light treatment for rickets. At the same time, Hess34 showed that cod liver oil could prevent and cure rickets in Afro-American children in New York. ... On the veranda (Figure 3) one group was kept well covered while the other group of children, wearing remarkably little clothing, was exposed to sunlight. This second group got better. Thus it was shown that cod liver oil and exposure to sunlight both healed rickets. However, it was not clear at that time whether the effectiveness of cod liver oil was due to vitamin D or to vitamin A,... "

Unfortunately, once a minimal dose of Vitamin D was found to be enough to cure rickets, our government keepers pronounced any more to be probably "toxic" or at best unnecessary. It is time to consider whether we need "ancestral" levels of vitamin D.

There is an article on NIH by a Canadian physician (Dr. Gerry Schwalfenberg) who works in nursing homes. He has developed a protocol for reducing flu like illness among his patients. This should be tried against the corona virus in US nursing homes:

Vitamin D for influenza

"A colleague of mine and I have introduced vitamin D at doses that have achieved greater than 100 nmol/L in most of our patients for the past number of years, and we now see very few patients in our clinics with the flu or influenzalike illness. In those patients who do have influenza, we have treated them with the vitamin D hammer, as coined by my colleague. This is a 1-time 50 000 IU dose of vitamin D3 or 10 000 IU 3 times daily for 2 to 3 days. The results are dramatic, with complete resolution of symptoms in 48 to 72 hours. One-time doses of vitamin D at this level have been used safely and have never been shown to be toxic. We urgently need a study of this intervention. The cost of vitamin D is about a penny for 1000 IU, so this treatment costs less than a dollar."

There is a presentation by Dr. Robert P Heaney on the healthful effects of adequate vitamin D levels:

Vitamin D Sunshine Optimal Health: Putting it all Together


11 posted on 04/29/2020 1:20:50 PM PDT by Ragnar54 (Obama replaced Osama as America's worst enemy and Al Qaeda's financier)
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The unwritten story of the china virus is that these black communities all have higher rates of current and former crack cocaine and heroin users. Drug use, especially long-term use, results in drug users having weakened immune systems and higher rates of heart and lung ailments. Many black China virus victims were the crack users of the 80s and 90s.


16 posted on 04/29/2020 1:57:36 PM PDT by bort
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This is just another bigoted race baiter who uses a naturally occurring phenomenon to blame people for a non-existent racism cause.

1. In the U.S. Blacks tend to populate crowded cities. COVID19 transmits at far higher rates in crowded populations.

2. Blacks display a FAR higher rate of obesity, especially black women. Studies of COVID19 vs race and gender show more infected white men than white women, but more infected black women than black men.

Peculiarities of COVID19 include the fact that severe and deadly cases are brought on by obesity and insulin resistance. Cytokines are inflammation starters which elicit autoimmune responses. The worst COVID19 viral actions are cytokine storms followed by autoimmune attacks. Obesity and insulin resistance are accompanied by the cytokinne Interluken-6 (IL6). COVID19 seems to play best off of IL6.


18 posted on 04/29/2020 2:05:17 PM PDT by nagant
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Let’s see:
1) NYC has way more cases than other US locations.
2) de Blasio leaves the subways open.
3) We find out today that de Blasio hasn’t been cleaning the subways.

Hmmm. Maybe there’s a connection.


22 posted on 04/29/2020 2:38:59 PM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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If the Democrats who control the major cities didn’t keep “their voters down on the welfare/release the criminals plantation”, a lot of this might not have happened.

Look at Detroit. Run by a lifelong Communist Party mayor Coleman Young and aided by CP supporters Mahaffey and Henderson, made a once productive city into a slum/abandoned blocks wasteland.

In NYC, the white mayors keep the blacks in virtual housing project penitentiaries.

Incompetent white and black mayors of Baltimore helped destroy a once major economic center of the East Coast (I was born and lived their for 21 years, with a family business of 50 years, one doctor, etc.). Nothing is left. Hard to even find a good Jewish delicatessen on Corned Beef Row. 90% of them are gone except for Attman’s (not as good as it used to be under Grandpa) and Harry’s.

Look at No. Philadelphia. Parts are worse than they were when I went to school their in the 60’s.

LA, SF, Seattle, etc. Watch where you step, folks.

When you chase good jobs/businesses out of the city by overtaxing, over-regulation, and condemning them as evil instruments of capitalism, you automatically condemn the lower economic members of society to a harder form of life. Blame it on Dinkins, Bloomturd, DeBlasio, etc. for NY City, and some of these other incompetent Marxists in Philly, Cleveland, Newark, Chicago, etc.

Singing “They only hurt the ones they love (as long as they vote for them)”.


25 posted on 04/29/2020 4:08:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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meh... In time it will be a badge of honor to have or have had it.


27 posted on 04/29/2020 4:44:41 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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