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CNN: Dubious coronavirus claims by California doctors condemned by health experts
CNN ^ | 04/29/2020 | By Anna-Maja Rappard, CNN

Posted on 04/29/2020 10:38:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

(CNN)A news conference by two California doctors that downplayed the threat of the coronavirus and made dubious claims that the disease had already spread widely, and therefore was not dangerous, struck a chord with those itching for states to ease stay-at-home orders -- but is being condemned by public health officials and experts.

A widely shared local television video of last week's news conference, which was posted on YouTube, reached more than 5 million views and was amplified by Elon Musk and Fox News, where Dr. Dan Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi appeared on primetime shows two nights in a row.

The video has since been taken down by YouTube for violating the platform's policy on misinformation, a YouTube spokesperson said.

The doctors, who are not epidemiologists and who own and operate urgent care centers in the Bakersfield area, held the news conference on April 22 to share their conclusions about the results of 5,213 coronavirus tests at their clinics, extrapolating their findings to the California population as a whole.

"Do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically no. Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically no. Do we need to test them and get them back to work? Yes, we do," Erickson said at the news conference.

The comments and conclusions of the doctors drew widespread condemnation from health officials and medical experts.

"There is a lot to object to from a scientific point of view," Andrew Noymer, an epidemiologist, told CNN. He said one big problem is that the doctors made estimates based on their clinics' clients who were tested, not a sampling of the general population.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; chatforum; cnn; cnnfakenews; coronavirus; fakenews; infection; kungflu; moogoogaipandemic; newsom; notnews; wuhanvirus
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1 posted on 04/29/2020 10:38:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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The video has since been taken down by YouTube for violating the platform's policy on misinformation, a YouTube spokesperson said.

I'm still trying to figure out how this can occur, it's scary. If these sites are now utilities, then the government needs to step in and stop the censorship.

2 posted on 04/29/2020 10:40:00 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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The video also prompted the American College of Emergency Physicians

https://www.acep.org/

and

American Academy of Emergency Medicine

https://www.aaem.org/

to issue a forceful joint statement on Monday calling the pair’s claims “reckless and untested musings” that “are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19.”

“As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health,” the statement read, “COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making.”


3 posted on 04/29/2020 10:40:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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CNN: Only OUR doctors are correct because OUR doctors agree with the lies that we have told.

Shove it up your collective Obamaholes, CNN.

Then do it again.

And again, and again ad infinitum.


4 posted on 04/29/2020 10:40:04 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind

I am sure they were “panned.” Cannot have sn6y TRUTH messing with the OWO narrative.


5 posted on 04/29/2020 10:40:10 AM PDT by madison10 (Wash your hands & say your prayers cause Jesus & germs are everywhere)
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The Derp State is pulling all the stops against these guys...

God Bless these two!


6 posted on 04/29/2020 10:40:33 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG)
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the doctors made estimates based on their clinics' clients who were tested, not a sampling of the general population

Which would only bolster the case these two doctors are making.
7 posted on 04/29/2020 10:41:16 AM PDT by JoSixChip (WuHoo flu is going to get you!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Would these experts be the ones who have been wrong about everything so far?


8 posted on 04/29/2020 10:41:27 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ("As government expands, liberty contracts." -Ronald Reagan)
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How many covid patients have those health officials and experts treated?


9 posted on 04/29/2020 10:41:29 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberaln would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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YOUTUBE’s policies are totally wrong.

The antidote against bad information (assuming what these doctors provided is bad info) is GOOD INFORMATION, better speech, better data, NOT suppression of speech.


10 posted on 04/29/2020 10:41:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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Shove it up your collective Obamaholes, CNN

I see the virus is already mutating ... to the Chinese Cornhole Virus.

11 posted on 04/29/2020 10:41:44 AM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until It's Safe" means "Never")
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weren’t these guys just reinforcing the results of the Stanford study???

https://abc7news.com/health/80-times-more-people-may-have-been-infected-by-covid-19-stanford-study-finds/6110894/


12 posted on 04/29/2020 10:41:45 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: EasySt

Yup. When you do a web search for these guys all you find are articles where “public health experts” denounce them.

1984 is finally here.


13 posted on 04/29/2020 10:42:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind

Those Drs in the field are at least as expert as those behind a desk. Real life observation either bolsters or debunk theory. To condemn them shows there is a hidden agenda and it’s time to follow the money.


14 posted on 04/29/2020 10:42:31 AM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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YOUTUBE’s policies are totally wrong. The antidote against bad information (assuming what these doctors provided is bad info) is GOOD INFORMATION, better speech, better data, NOT suppression of speech.

It may come down to conservative/libertarian owned new companies to compete with youtube, twitter, facebook etc. FOX has proven competition with liberal outlets works

15 posted on 04/29/2020 10:43:58 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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Apparently there was 2 million deaths from Corona.


16 posted on 04/29/2020 10:44:23 AM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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Is this another case of consensus science? Counter their science and not their stats for a moment please.


17 posted on 04/29/2020 10:44:43 AM PDT by wiseprince
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I’m one for ‘let the consumer decide’, but Zuckerberg & Co. won’t allow it.

Bet your arse DjT has noticed and will do something. Barr noticed too.


18 posted on 04/29/2020 10:44:59 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'm going ahead.)
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RE: Apparently there was 2 million deaths from Corona.

SOURCE?


19 posted on 04/29/2020 10:45:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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The video has since been taken down by YouTube for violating the platform’s policy on misinformation,
= = =

Just what is this ‘policy on misinformation?’

Seems like if it is NOT truly ‘misinformation’ then it has to go. That is, mainstream media can stay. Any opposing is misinformation.

Experiment:
Post two Utubes -

1)Obama is a God, savior of the universe

2) Obama is satan on earth, who wants all to burn.

See which one is removed.

Other similar experiments could be conducted, maybe a little more subtle.


20 posted on 04/29/2020 10:45:44 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (This is not /s. It is just as viable as any MSM 'information', maybe more so!)
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