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Trump administration considers leveraging emergency coronavirus loan to force Postal Service changes
Washington Post via MSN ^ | 4.23.20 | Jacob Bogage, Lisa Rein

Posted on 04/23/2020 4:52:26 PM PDT by DoodleDawg

The Treasury Department is considering taking unprecedented control over key operations of the U.S. Postal Service by imposing tough terms on an emergency coronavirus loan from Congress, which would fulfill President Trump’s longtime goal of changing how the service does business, according to two people familiar with the matter.

Officials working under Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, who must approve the $10 billion loan, have told senior officials at the USPS in recent weeks that he could use the loan as leverage to give the administration influence over how much the agency charges for delivering packages and how it manages its finances, according to the two people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the talks are preliminary.

Trump has railed for years against what he sees as mismanagement at the Postal Service, which he argues has been exploited by e-commerce sites such as Amazon, and has sought to change how much the agency charges for delivery packages. (Amazon’s founder and chief executive Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post.)

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To: Runner4life

Thank you for the correction.


61 posted on 04/23/2020 7:13:22 PM PDT by Ponyexpress9790
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To: Larry Lucido; Gamecock
The Post Office won't go down without a fight!


62 posted on 04/23/2020 7:20:48 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Runner4life

Not for daily mail delivered


63 posted on 04/23/2020 7:22:35 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Ponyexpress9790

Sounds familiar. Most people have no clue how many packages we deliver in a day. Yes, first class mail has dropped, but the package volume is something the USPS has yet to adjust to. It’s costing them millions in overtime pay yet they refuse to charge companies like Amazon an appropriate rate. And Amazon makes out like bandits. Bezos must go to bed laughing over the deal he has with USPS.


64 posted on 04/23/2020 7:25:19 PM PDT by Runner4life
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To: Chickensoup

Sure you can, if you want to pay for it. It doesn’t cost you anything for mail delivery. It’s free. You can choose to never purchase a product from USPS and you’ll still get mail delivered to you, from someone who purchased postage etc.


65 posted on 04/23/2020 7:29:56 PM PDT by Runner4life
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To: Rebelbase; Gamecock; PROCON

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66 posted on 04/23/2020 7:33:25 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The constitution allows for "Post Roads" doesn't it?

There isn't anything requiring the Post Office in the Constitution. It can certainly be "rid of".
67 posted on 04/23/2020 7:41:05 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Runner4life

They don’t out here-if the shipper you ordered from ships with UPS or FedEx, that is whose truck comes through your gate and down the driveway to your deck/porch-out here USPS does not go inside fences/gates onto private property-they only leave your stuff at the mailbox/ outside of the gate. I suppose handing it off for the last mile works in a less rural area, since the houses are right on a street or less then 100 ft or so from the street-and no gates or long driveways-also, postal carriers in rural areas are all local people who are contract labor who drive their own SUVs and pickups, unlike in cities-rural postal carriers don’t walk, either on their routes-the properties are mostly acreage-too much distance. Some neighborhoods have central mailbox arrangements at their entrances, but not many-they are theft magnets...


68 posted on 04/23/2020 7:44:22 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys-you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: nascarnation

If you have Amazon Prime, yes.


69 posted on 04/23/2020 7:45:42 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Texan5

Hmmm rural route carriers here are postal employees and either drive their own vehicle or a postal vehicle. And here(Iowa) is pretty rural. And they drive right up to the farm house to deliver packages. Must be different there. But here the USPS is required to service all addresses as required by law. UPS and FedEx are not. Hence , they drop ship to the local USPS to finish delivery, thereby saving themselves time and money. At the USPS expense


70 posted on 04/23/2020 8:30:08 PM PDT by Runner4life
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To: Runner4life

I think each state handles rural postal service differently-I don’t know who makes the rules-but they even vary from county to county here-some counties’ rural postal service doesn’t even deliver packages over a certain size-you have to pick it up at the rural post office...


71 posted on 04/23/2020 8:39:22 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys-you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Larry Lucido

I love the way those descriptions are worded with a story.

Reminds me of Myanmar. It will always be Burma to me.


72 posted on 04/23/2020 9:08:22 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: AlaskaErik

My outgoing mail flag snapped off my mailbox. I put outgoing mail in the box anyway figuring my mailman would see and take it when he delivered my mail. Nope.

So I called his supervisor at the post office. Told me carriers aren’t required to pick up outgoing mail without the flag up and she couldn’t force him to. Said with a heavy sigh, their Union says so.


73 posted on 04/23/2020 9:41:53 PM PDT by LateBoomer
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To: DoodleDawg

The post office is killing itself off...since infrastructure is already in place, new management could turn it around faster than Linda Blair’s head in “The Exorcist”...


74 posted on 04/24/2020 3:38:35 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: nascarnation
I propose laying off half the workforce and deliver mail 3 days a week. MWF for one zip code, TTS for the next, etc.

That wouldn't be bad. Heck, I might be willing to live with only 2 days a week of junk mail. The postal service is an interesting deal from a Constitutional perspective. It is specifically called for in Article 1 § 8. "To establish post offices and post roads;", so it is actually one of the very few things that the government does that is actually fully Constitutional. There is nothing in that line, though about daily delivery.

Early on in this unconstitutional lockdown, one of the things that I thought was funny was that the entire world could shut down, but I'd still have junk mail in my mail box every day. Interestingly, it seems that the junk finally started slacking off last week.

75 posted on 04/24/2020 7:10:15 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
That's right - For an annual or monthly fee, let Americans get a secured email address for digital mail and a social media page. Let the USPS expand into banking, debit cards, short-term loans, and online bill-pay.

There was a bunch of work done on something like that when email first became a common thing. One of the thoughts was to map an email address to each current physical postal address. There are a lot of issues that would have to be worked through. Would delivery be made to a location, or individuals made at a specific location? Also, can you just imagine the spam such a regularized PO email address would get? There would be Constitutional issues of blocking spam to such addresses, so spam would have to be handled locally.

I have a mail forwarding service for all of my email and have since 1996. Since that time, I've changed actual email providers many times, but no one that I correspond through email is aware of it, because all they see is my pobox.com address. However, because I have such a long-lived email address, I get tons of spam. Pobox is bouncing a minimum of 50 emails a day. Fortunately their spam filters are pretty good, or it would be a real pain to wade through all the crap. I can just imagine grandma trying to deal with that, and sorting through the junk to find things that are actually important.

Now, the 'secured' part of your proposal is interesting. By that did you mean encrypted? If so, that opens up another huge can o' worms. Where would the encryption keys reside? Locally, or at the mailbox? If the former, you have issues with morons losing their keys due to mismanagement or hardware failure. It would suck to not be able to read your mail because a file got deleted. If the key existed on the USPS servers, that would mean that the government would have complete, transparent access to all of your correspondence. Not a good state of affairs.

Crypto is hard to do right, and if you're serious about it, you always control your own keys. I've been using PGP since the 90s, and have been dealing with some of the issues that go with actually using cryptography securely. It's not something the average American would manage or even grasp for the most part.

There is no need for mail delivery as it exists today. It is an anachronism. It also wastes precious resources. Digitize all regular mail, let the Post Office implement online bill pay and checking and debit accounts, and it'll become solvent and profitable within 3 years.

We shall have to disagree with the 'need' for physical mail delivery. I have certain bills that I much prefer to be physical, rather than just online accounts. It may well be anachronistic, but I actually prefer writing a physical check for my mortgage.

76 posted on 04/24/2020 7:39:37 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Freedom4US
The constitution allows for "Post Roads" doesn't it?

Yes.

There isn't anything requiring the Post Office in the Constitution. It can certainly be "rid of".

Sorry, you're wrong about that. The actual text from Article 1, Section 8 is 'To establish post offices and post roads;'. Doesn't say anything about delivery though. It would be entirely Constitutional to require that we pick up all mail at the PO.

77 posted on 04/24/2020 7:51:23 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: nascarnation
I propose laying off half the workforce and deliver mail 3 days a week. MWF for one zip code, TTS for the next, etc.

Not a bad starting point for discussion.

78 posted on 04/24/2020 7:53:25 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: Runner4life
Since you're a carrier, and you've mentioned the package delivery and whatnot, I'd be interested in your opinion of this proposal... Reduce general delivery to every location to 2 or 3 days a week. On the other days, you'd have just package delivery. Would that be workable? Would it save money, or travel?
79 posted on 04/24/2020 7:55:45 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Freedom4US

Gimme a break. You know the Framers were talking about post offices even though it says roads. There were no offices of such then.


80 posted on 04/24/2020 9:39:37 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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