Posted on 04/22/2020 10:27:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
>>The lockdowns are bullspit at this point... outside the accela corridore and a few other places, the country should be business as usual... But nope... This whole thing is politcal.
The WHO used to agree with you not that many years ago:
“However, as they would hamper global travel and trade, such restrictions are not recommended by WHO once the global spread of pandemic influenza is established.”
https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/92/12/14-135590/en/
Travel restrictions were included in the WHO interim protocol: rapid operations to contain the initial emergence of pandemic influenza that was published in 2007 by the World Health Organization (WHO).1
However, as they would hamper global travel and trade, such restrictions are not recommended by WHO once the global spread of pandemic influenza is established.
In 2009, some countries applied travel restrictions as one of several strategies to prevent the introduction of the influenza virus A(H1N1)pdm09 into their territories but the effectiveness of this approach has subsequently been questioned....
I would like to see some peer reviews of this study, if true it’s certainly good news.
This can’t be right
everyone is telling me I’m wrong....
Let America Go Back to Work!!!
“the study’s results raises a question that policymakers across the country will confront as they consider when and how to loosen sweeping restrictions aimed at curtailing the COVID-19 epidemic. Will they be guided by emerging evidence, or will they use it to support the policies they already favored? “
Neither. There will be massive civil disobedience, and the “policy makers” will back off if they know what’s good for them.
I think you are both leaving out the people who may be ‘infected’ by the Novel Coronavirus 2019 but have no reaction to it. Some people have a natural ‘resistance’ to certain diseases.
There is no resistance without antibodies. These antibodies show up in the tests being given - no?
No argument.
“There is no resistance without antibodies. These antibodies show up in the tests being given - no?”
No and yes.
There are two types of test.
The tests when they say someone tests positive for the Wuhan Virus are not looking for antibodies. They are looking specifically for signs of an active virus, not for any antibodies that might be developing to fight it.
The antibody test is a separate test usually given to just those not known to be Wuhan Virus positive and or those who have recovered from an illness from it.
Let me ask the question a little differently and more directly. Is a body's ability to 'resist' a virus possible without at least some antibodies already present in the body's immune system, or created by the body upon attack from a new virus; a previously unknown virus, like the coronavirus?
Btw, you said you had no argument with UCANSEE2's statement, part of which was:
Some people have a natural ‘resistance’ to certain diseases.
To which I replied, "There is no resistance without antibodies. These antibodies show up in the tests being given - no?"
So either the answer to my question is true, or false. It can possibly be, "both", as you have said - no?
Read the Wikipedia article on phagocytes.
“Yesterday, the rate of new infections in 23 states was less than 3% of total infections since the epidemic started”
Kinda blows the exponential aspect of infection and death all to hell doesn’t it?
Except there is the antibody explosion so maybe we’ll actually get an exponential event.
No, I do not think that all antibodies are pathogen specific, nor that the body has to have experienced a particular pathogen for its immune system to rally a successful defense against it. But yes, after successfully defending against an attack the immune system may have some specific antibodies, in spite of defeating the attack initially without them.
The immune system is not a system designed to only be successful against previously known pathogens. It is a system that is designed to develop strategies to attack the unknown new attackers. Some folks have immune systems that do that better than others in some cases.
I hate to threadbomb but I’m in several of the vulnerable categories and I say reopen everything. Now.
Can you explain why I haven't had the flu for 37 years? Do I have antibodies to every new strain of the flu that comes along every single year? Where did I get them?
Why haven't I had a cold for the last 47 years? Do I have antibodies to every new strain of rhinovirus and the 8 strains of coronavirus that cause colds in millions of people every year?
Why are we being locked down when there are ways to fight virus and bacteria ? Disenfectant sprays and ultra violet light are not being deployed.
only socialist style lockdowns
I’m no expert by any stretch, but I believe the body maintains what scientists call memory antibodies which are specific?
Is the whole thing, real and as bad as it is, simply a Communist Chinese and Democrat psy-op to defeat Trump?
Your reply is fair enough but it means that your statement about antibodies is not the absolute you made it sound like. Perhaps you didn’t mean it to be.
It’s a complicated subject where absolutes are a rare thing.
Immune Response:
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/immune+response
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