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25,000 Missing Deaths: Tracking the True Toll of the Coronavirus Crisis
The New York Slimes ^ | April 21, 2020 | Jin Wu and Allison McCann

Posted on 04/21/2020 9:50:21 PM PDT by absalom01

At least 25,000 more people have died during the coronavirus pandemic over the last month than the official Covid-19 death counts report, a review of mortality data in 11 countries shows — providing a clearer, if still incomplete, picture of the toll of the crisis.

In the last month, far more people died in these countries than in previous years, The New York Times found. The totals include deaths from Covid-19 as well as those from other causes, likely including people who could not be treated as hospitals became overwhelmed.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ccpvirus; chicombioweapon; covid19
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I am no fan of the NYT, and yes, the graphics are manipulated to make this look worse, but it's still there: this is real data, not projections. I know the flubros are going to whine, but the Red bio warfare is bringing a lot of death to the world. graphics
1 posted on 04/21/2020 9:50:21 PM PDT by absalom01
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To: absalom01
looks like i goofed up the tag. Here's the link: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1252674459166785541/photo/1
2 posted on 04/21/2020 9:51:03 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your dut!!y in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01

It’s all a conspiracy, you know—everything.

KILLER BUG Dad killed by coronavirus after dismissing ‘bulls***’ lockdown as a ‘political ploy’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11441636/john-mcdaniel-killed-coronavirus-dismissing-political-ploy/


3 posted on 04/21/2020 10:21:30 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: absalom01

Man, they are Jonesing for more deaths to support their already cooked books...


4 posted on 04/21/2020 10:25:08 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Vendome

Exactly. Does it EVER dawn on anyone that these worst case
situations just might be a bit (more than) contrived?

Why isn’t this happening elsewhere?

Are we supposed to believe COVID-19 is only dangerous in
New York City?

Does anyone think critically?

The NYT tosses this stuff in over the transom, and folks who
never believe a word they say, sudden accept it because
it’s COVID-19 related. Really?

Good grief!


5 posted on 04/21/2020 10:32:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: absalom01

The U.S. under both Bushes, Clinton and Obama, were just as involved in this, not just the CCP. But then again, everything that is a respiratory related issue with the patient who dies is automatically classified as death due to Covid-19. So the numbers are skewed in both directions. This virus was developed in Fort Detrick originally. Then it was moved to Chapel Hill UNC. Finally it was moved to China with funding came from the U.S.


6 posted on 04/21/2020 11:04:52 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Evidence?


7 posted on 04/21/2020 11:18:35 PM PDT by moonhawk (I need a new tagline.)
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To: absalom01

Not that I’d want to confuse the issue with facts, but it seems rather odd that the usual deaths from seasonal influenza, simply stopped when COVID was discovered. I would imagine the symptoms would be similar, but there would be some percentage of the current death toll, that simply has to be from seasonal flu. What that number would be, cannot be known, but if we use a yearly 30,000, it brings COVID into better focus, instead of the hysteria that has been used to strip us of our freedoms, and rights to earn livings to support our families. Affluence is the greatest enemy of socialism.


8 posted on 04/21/2020 11:20:53 PM PDT by krogers58
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Let's look at recent satellite pictures over Wuhan's crematoriums if we're looking for more dead bodies.

Those photographs from January are unforgettable.

9 posted on 04/21/2020 11:31:35 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine, education and forests!)
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To: absalom01

Uh OH They found more Democratic voters!


10 posted on 04/21/2020 11:51:28 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: absalom01

The NY figures on C-Virus deaths are exaggerated. If someone dies of previous medical conditions (diabetes, pneumonia, or other problems causing immune deficiency) AND they have C-Virus, they are being counted as deaths due to the virus.

Apparently, they make thousands of $$ more for the virus deaths.

No sources. Just bits of info I’ve read in postings on FR over the past month or so.


11 posted on 04/22/2020 12:23:42 AM PDT by octex
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Additionally, the hospitals are not being “overwhelmed”. They have been laying off staff personnel and Doctors because normal hospital patients are not going there.


12 posted on 04/22/2020 12:36:18 AM PDT by octex
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To: krogers58

Very true - and also, about every 10 years, there is an epidemic of a particularly deadly flu which goes around the world. I remember the year my elderly father died, in Sydney Australia, all the hospitals were full and hundreds died every night. It was on the news. It wasn’t a national emergency, just a bad flu season.

If we compare current figures to the previous severe flu seasons, I am sure it would all go back into perspective.

I am very suspicious that Covid19 kills the very old, the obese, and those with compromised health. It can’t make a start against the young. That indicates that it is not so deadly after all.


13 posted on 04/22/2020 12:39:55 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: Robert DeLong
The U.S. under both Bushes, Clinton and Obama, were just as involved in this, not just the CCP.

You forgot ME. I was involved in this for at least 22 years. Yep, it took a long time to put this all together, and to pick the proper time in which to unleash it. Sorry for all the death and misery, but we have much bigger fish to fry, and sometimes you have to drastic things in order to bring about.....a NEW ORDER.

The coolest thing is I can take responsibility, and NO ONE will believe me because this is this a random website where ppl come to BS and go about their day. It is comical if you think about it.

Just wait for the 2nd part of our act, it is really going to cramp the styles of a lot of people and move things into a very unexpected end game.

Glad to see at least one person sensed it. Good luck to you and yours.

As we say in counterintelligence...."It's not paranoia if they are really out to get you." hahaha

14 posted on 04/22/2020 12:51:38 AM PDT by Salvavida
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To: absalom01

The true missing deaths are the increase in suicides due to shutdown of economy. Probably eclipsing Covid Deaths in this country

Suicides are already the #10 leading cause of death in the U.S., almost 48,000. . Every 1% increase in unemployment results in thousands more committing suicide. ( medical journal Lancet). I can tell you that suicide intervention centers are getting more calls in 72 hours than we usually see in 3 months. For a concise analysis see the following excerpt below that estimates an increase from suicide and drugs of at least 70,000 this is from https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/04/13/shutdown_could_kill_more_americans_than_covid-19_142934.html

No model or guesswork is required to foresee the deadly impact. Job losses cause extreme suffering. Every 1% hike in the unemployment rate will likely produce a 3.3% increase in drug overdose deaths and a 0.99% increase in suicides according to data provided by the National Bureau of Economic Research and the medical journal Lancet. These are facts based on experience, not models. If unemployment hits 32%, some 77,000 Americans are likely to die from suicide and drug overdoses as a result of layoffs. Scientists call these fatalities deaths of despair.

Then add the predictable deaths from alcohol abuse caused by unemployment. Health economist Michael French from the University of Miami and a co-author found a “significant association between job loss” and binge drinking and alcoholism.

The impact of layoffs goes beyond suicide, drug overdosing and drinking. Overall, the death rate for an unemployed person is 63% higher than for someone with a job, according to findings in Social Science & Medicine.


15 posted on 04/22/2020 2:35:25 AM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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To: tallyhoe

Lol, funny they have so much time to second guess content within death certificates, but have never figured out how to remove the dead from voter rolls


16 posted on 04/22/2020 4:33:29 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler

BS


17 posted on 04/22/2020 4:39:02 AM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: The Westerner

Well sure. We’re never gonna know what happened in China.

Sad, but that’s the way it goes.

I’m angriest that they allowed their people to fly out
of the country when they wouldn’t let them fly out of
Wuhan domestically.

They deliberately infected the world.

Any business we do with China from here on out, it’s just
unconscionable.


18 posted on 04/22/2020 4:47:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: absalom01

But aren’t they padding the numbers with influenza deaths, the “non-positive but probable” deaths and several other types of non-COVID deaths??


19 posted on 04/22/2020 6:18:25 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Salvavida
Well we shall see. Your trust in the evil that has gained control of this country, or the God that created this Universe. Me thinks your eyes will be the ones opened, not mine.

No good luck to you and yours. I don't need luck, just faith.

Sorry, I cannot find anything laughable about what is going on. It's pure evil, plain & simple. If you believe this is all about saving lives, then it's no wonder your were involved, by being in Marine intelligence, that you failed to see the corruption taking hold under your nose. If you think that statement is a false conspiracy theory, then explain how Hillary Clinton walks free, why nothing has happened with regards to FISA abuse to bring down a "freely elected" president, and why leftists have so much power in this country that was once the home of the brave and land of the free. How did this happen under your oh so capable nose?

20 posted on 04/22/2020 6:35:23 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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