Posted on 04/21/2020 2:52:09 PM PDT by knighthawk
The Netherlands will start reopening primary schools and daycare centres from May 11 but organised events remain banned until September 1, prime minister Mark Rutte told a news conference on Tuesday evening.
This is the maximum we can do at the moment, Rutte told reporters. In particular, relaxing the social distancing rules too quickly will lead to a second wave of infections which needs to be averted. These are difficult considerations but its a question of better safe than sorry, Rutte said. We have to be very cautious.
The decision to reopen schools is based on a wide range of research which shows that young children are unlikely to pass on the virus or develop serious symptoms themselves, according to Jaap van Dissel, head of the public health institute RIVM.
There are no clusters in which schools would appear to be a hot spot, Van Dissel said. And the closure of the schools has had no impact on the spread. Teachers will have the right to be tested for the virus if they have symptoms.
Sports
Young children will also be allowed to resume taking parts in team sports, but without formal matches which pose a bigger risk of spreading the virus. The under-18s may also take part in team sport training again, provided they keep to the 1.5 metre rule.
But this means no parents watching, and showering at home, Rutte said. In addition, he said, officials will look at the options to make sure youngsters who are not members of a club can also join in organised sports.
The ban on events is being extended from June 1 to September 1, because we cant cope with the risks, Rutte said. This means no professional football until September 1, the prime minister said. We cannot avoid having to make this sacrifice.
The Dutch football association KNVB had hoped to resume training next month in preparation for completing the season before the beginning of August.
Nursing homes
Visits to nursing homes remain banned because of the risk to the most vulnerable people in society, Rutte said, adding that experts have been asked to look into the options for relaxing this rule.
In addition, more research is also being carried out into the use of face masks and gloves in professions which involve physical contact, but in the meantime hairdressers, manicurists and physiotherapists cannot do their jobs, the prime minister said.
Basic rules
Rutte stressed that the main rules working home and staying home as much as possible, as well as maintaining a 1.5 metre distance from others remain paramount.
These basic rules have brought us to where we are today, he said. This is a virus. The only thing we really know is that the 1.5 metre rule reduces the risk of Covid-19 spreading.
The basic social distancing rules will be extended until May 20 and in the week prior to that, ministers will decide if they need to be extended further. And we will keep a close eye on developments and remain alert, Rutte said.
Beating coronavirus is all about working together, the prime minister said. The freedom of one person cannot be at the expense of the health of another.
Asked if people could safely book summer holidays, Rutte said: Personally, I have cancelled a few things and am booking nothing. It is up to individuals themselves. But we cannot see more than three weeks ahead.
i guess no F1 race in the Netherlands this year...
I’m all for opening up schools.
But the teachers, staff, parents, then grandparents are gonna catch what these little incubators will bring home.
“Yeah Little Billy, it’s true. YOU killed Grandma.”
So, I guess they arent testing everyone before they can go back to school?
I get that children may be asymptomatic and not suffer from COVID 19.
But as with any virus, it can (and is) transmitted to others.
I just quoted the article. The health authorities in the Netherlands say “children are unlikely to transmit the virus.” They say they have research supporting this contention.
Yeah, I noticed. I wasn’t taking issue with you.
(I know better than that. lol)
Thank you.
Maybe the Dutch health authorities are right. It would certainly be useful!
Below are the data. Note for the US as nation, that Day 1 is March 25, which means Day 27 is April 20 for that row of data. You can do the math for the other municipalities to find out what Day XX means for them in calendar times; as a general rule, the last actual data point is the freshest date, but on a Golf timeline it gives each municipality's score as of the "27th hole." Data are sorted by descending Day 27 fatality counts. For the state-level data, I included states alphabetically that only had fatality counts from Day 25 onward.
There is a data quirk on the GitHub pages where the US aggregate data are less than the State-level roll up. I think the NYS data are causing the problem. Caveat Emptor.
Per this article, the US is doing much better than the relatively hands-off Netherlands and, to a lesser extent, Sweden. Of course, as I've said before, they haven't vaporized their service economies. If this winter they go down the toilet while America prospers, I guess that means we got it right. If not, well...
At the state level, not much movement....the Blue states are running away with it - the municipalities with size- and time-adjusted fatalities higher than the US as a whole by Day 26 are New York (Blue), New Jersey (Blue), Connecticut (Blue), Massachusetts (Blue), Michigan (Red), Louisiana (Red), and District of Columbia (Blue), respectively.
Pray for everyone impacted.
Country | Date of Day 1 = day prior to breaching size-adj 1,000 COVID19 fatalities | Population | Day 25 | Day 26 | Day 27 | Day 28 | Day 29 | Day 30 |
San Marino | 3/3/20 | 33,574 | 206,132 | 215,948 | 215,948 | 245,396 | 255,211 | 255,211 |
Andorra | 3/21/20 | 77,543 | 131,749 | 140,249 | 140,249 | 148,749 | 148,749 | 152,999 |
Belgium | 3/19/20 | 11,524,454 | 102,947 | 111,611 | 118,875 | 126,967 | 138,892 | 147,643 |
Spain | 3/13/20 | 47,100,396 | 93,346 | 98,271 | 103,498 | 108,081 | 112,517 | 116,190 |
West Bank and Gaza | 3/25/20 | 11,700 | 56,334 | 84,502 | 84,502 | - | - | - |
France | 3/18/20 | 67,076,000 | 68,052 | 70,809 | 73,629 | 77,373 | 84,448 | 88,147 |
Italy | 3/5/20 | 60,243,406 | 58,966 | 63,408 | 67,986 | 71,963 | 76,121 | 80,311 |
United Kingdom | 3/20/20 | 66,435,550 | 56,287 | 60,166 | 63,961 | 68,252 | 72,459 | 76,878 |
Netherlands | 3/17/20 | 17,451,031 | 47,589 | 50,101 | 51,876 | 53,500 | 55,804 | 59,392 |
Sweden | 3/23/20 | 10,333,456 | 42,512 | 44,649 | 48,189 | 49,114 | 50,390 | - |
Ireland | 3/25/20 | 4,921,500 | 38,236 | 40,847 | 46,003 | - | - | - |
United States | 3/25/20 | 329,556,365 | 38,664 | 40,661 | 42,094 | - | - | - |
Switzerland | 3/16/20 | 8,586,550 | 36,385 | 38,457 | 39,762 | 42,449 | 43,677 | 45,059 |
Luxembourg | 3/17/20 | 613,894 | 28,989 | 33,283 | 35,431 | 37,041 | 35,968 | 37,041 |
Macedonia | 3/24/20 | 679,600 | 23,761 | 23,761 | 24,731 | 26,186 | - | - |
Portugal | 3/23/20 | 10,276,617 | 20,171 | 21,069 | 22,031 | 22,897 | 23,570 | - |
Germany | 3/25/20 | 83,149,300 | 17,673 | 18,176 | 19,270 | - | - | - |
Denmark | 3/22/20 | 5,822,763 | 17,489 | 18,168 | 19,017 | 19,583 | 20,092 | 20,602 |
Austria | 3/23/20 | 8,902,600 | 15,177 | 15,955 | 16,399 | 16,732 | 17,398 | - |
Iran | 3/9/20 | 83,331,064 | 12,497 | 13,027 | 13,652 | 14,249 | 14,787 | 15,313 |
Iceland | 3/23/20 | 364,260 | 7,238 | 8,143 | 8,143 | 8,143 | 9,047 | - |
Cyprus | 3/23/20 | 875,900 | 4,515 | 4,515 | 4,515 | 4,515 | 4,515 | - |
Municipality | Date of Day 1 = day prior to breaching size-adj 1,000 COVID19 fatalities | Population (MM) | Day 25 | Day 26 | Day 27 | Day 28 | Day 29 | Day 30 |
New York | 3/20/20 | 19,795,791 | 167,410 | 180,362 | 192,881 | 202,970 | 213,458 | 222,448 |
New Jersey | 3/23/20 | 8,958,013 | 129,424 | 141,270 | 149,731 | 154,587 | 161,025 | - |
Connecticut | 3/23/20 | 3,590,886 | 89,114 | 95,080 | 99,668 | 103,431 | 122,154 | - |
Massachusetts | 3/25/20 | 6,794,422 | 75,666 | 82,748 | 87,744 | - | - | - |
Michigan | 3/24/20 | 9,922,576 | 73,932 | 76,622 | 79,345 | 81,903 | - | - |
Louisiana | 3/20/20 | 4,670,724 | 62,373 | 71,475 | 77,825 | 81,565 | 85,587 | 89,397 |
District of Columbia | 3/24/20 | 672,228 | 42,161 | 44,612 | 47,064 | 51,476 | - | - |
United States | 3/25/20 | 329,556,365 | 38,664 | 40,661 | 42,094 | - | - | - |
Colorado | 3/24/20 | 5,456,574 | 23,494 | 24,702 | 25,427 | 27,058 | - | - |
Georgia | 3/23/20 | 10,214,860 | 19,712 | 21,325 | 21,616 | 22,003 | 24,745 | - |
Nevada | 3/24/20 | 2,890,845 | 17,214 | 17,670 | 18,012 | 18,582 | - | - |
Vermont | 3/18/20 | 626,042 | 13,160 | 14,213 | 14,740 | 15,266 | 15,792 | 18,424 |
Washington | 3/8/20 | 7,170,351 | 11,444 | 12,501 | 13,467 | 14,616 | 15,811 | 17,603 |
California | 3/27/20 | 39,144,818 | 10,296 | - | - | - | - | - |
Delaware | 3/27/20 | 945,934 | 25,084 | - | - | - | - | - |
Illinois | 3/27/20 | 12,859,995 | 34,826 | - | - | - | - | - |
Indiana | 3/26/20 | 6,619,680 | 27,979 | 28,327 | - | - | - | - |
Mississippi | 3/27/20 | 2,992,333 | 18,613 | - | - | - | - | - |
Oklahoma | 3/27/20 | 3,911,338 | 12,049 | - | - | - | - | - |
Oregon | 3/27/20 | 4,028,977 | 6,135 | - | - | - | - | - |
South Carolina | 3/27/20 | 4,896,146 | 8,346 | - | - | - | - | - |
“... team sport training again, provided they keep to the 1.5 metre rule. “
How would that even work? Would soccer be more, or less exciting with a 1.5-metre rule? Would pro football players have to be so big, if the 1.5-metre rule were made permanent? In baseball, could a runner be tagged out, if he came within 1.5 metres of the ball? Would the umpires be able to call those outs? It would probably be entertaining to watch, for a while.
Beating coronavirus is all about working together, the prime minister said. The freedom of one person cannot be at the expense of the health of another.
Asked if people could safely book summer holidays, Rutte said: Personally, I have cancelled a few things and am booking nothing. It is up to individuals themselves. But we cannot see more than three weeks ahead.
I guess that part is just too hard for some Freepers to comprehend and accept and have earned the sobriquet Chicken Freeper.
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