Coronavirus Kills More Americans in One Month Than the Flu Kills in One Year

The National Review ^ | 04/21/2020 | JOHN MCCORMACK

[cgbg]

There are only 2 options: 1 - Deal with this virus. Go on about life and accept that there are risks in life. 2 - Lockdown until there’s a vaccine. Then, in a year or two, try to figure out what’s left in the world, and count the numbers who died from suicide, starvation, drug abuse, physical abuse.

There is actually are a lot of other options.

Binary thinking is for apes. Humans should be able to do better.

[Fresh Wind]

But then, how do we define a CV19 death vs a normal CV (e.g. the flu) death?

If we SUSPECT it's a COVID-19 death, then it IS a COVID-19 death. No proof (e.g. testing) is required. And knowing that more money will be coming from Uncle Sugar if it's COVID-19 rather than any normal corona virus, making that decision is particularly easy.

[semimojo]

The CDC includes pneumonia numbers in the flu numbers because very few people actually die from the flu.

Most everyone dies of cardiac arrest.

[SmokingJoe]

Your point being?
I know another 100 old folks like me who have died from heart disease alone (which kills VASTLY more people than coronavirus ever will) since December.

[Tired of Taxes]

That’s based on the overblown numbers for seasonal flu.

[daniel1212]

In fact, the incidence of all other diseases are drastically down — because the only thing being measured right now, is CV19. And as epidemiologists are wont to do, look for only evidence that confirms what they want to prove — and discard all other data

And In March, US Deaths from COVID-19 Totaled Less Than 2 Percent of All Deaths

And what I find mysterious is CV deaths in the light of deaths from pneumonia. The CDC shows just 206 deaths nationwide by the flu in the last weekly (week 15) count. But while the CDC provides the Number of Pneumonia Deaths, and Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 together, yet I cannot find numbers for Deaths with Pneumonia and Influenza together.

It lists 4,163 Pneumonia Deaths for week 15 (4/11/2020) and 1,947 Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19 (including presumed Covid) together, and (contradicting itself) 343 Influenza Deaths, but I cannot find any actual numbers for deaths by pneumonia and influenza together. The only data I can find for Deaths Due to Pneumonia and Influenza is a page that states "The percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza is 11.9%, above the epidemic threshold of 7.0%". but not any counts, and a graph and data source that also only provide a percent.

Then the CDC reports for week 15 that "Laboratory confirmed flu activity as reported by clinical laboratories is now low" even though hospitalizations remain high.. .

And yet it provides this image:

[amorphous]

And because I know what a doubting Thomas you are, here's another source for ya:

Considering the average age of folks here on FreeRepublic.Com, please don't take this virus lightly.

[amorphous]

The corona virus will kill around 60,000 Americans during the month of April alone, based on data from worldometers.info.

[samadams2000]

I would like to know how many regular FLU deaths they are counting this year. How many have died from the flu?

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

OMG I am a 66 year old woman, with her 90 year old mom living in my home and I say IPEN THIS BABY UP Americans should not be living this way!! We have survived polio, TB, measles, smallpox, chicken pox, HIV, EBOLA, we live with risks every damn day of our lives OPEN HER UP NOW!!!

[SmokingJoe]

It has absolutely nothing to do with seasonal flu.

COVID-19 could be a tenth as deadly as the flu in America: Stanford Med professors; ‘Epidemiological modelers haven’t adequately adapted their estimates’

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3829684/posts

If you add in the fact that New York State coronavirus death figures are totally fake, the coronavirus death rate becomes even much lower.

[central_va]

We know nothing of that victims medical history.

Open it up, full throttle.

[CIB-173RDABN]

Reality. Reality really stinks many times, but it is what it is.

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Reality is whatever the media wants it to be.

I have become agnostic on all things government, media and science.

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

WHY you ask BECAUSE every damn death is being logged as CV19 NO ONE in this country is dying of anything else right now!!! BASTARDS!!

[cuban leaf]

Which means the numbers are meaningless and can’t be trusted. History will not be kind to this generation. Is it Rome, or is it Babylon? I dunno, but it was not conquered from outside. It was conquered from internal rot.

[exDemMom]

In NY and NJ, maybe. But then, how do we define a CV19 death vs a normal CV (e.g. the flu) death?

Colds and influenza are different diseases caused by different, unrelated viruses. A Covid-19 death is one that has been laboratory confirmed to have been caused by that specific virus.

[PghBaldy]

Those numbers are fake too. They just add suspected cases with pneumonia and estimate. The Covid-19 counts are far more accurate now, even including the fudging of the last few days. Ever wonder why they push the flu vaccine so hard every year? Someone is getting rich of it, and it usually does little good.

[amorphous]

It can be opened, and will be opened in coming days, weeks, or maybe you haven’s seen any of the president’s task force briefings? We just need to be smart about it, or don’t you believe your president?

[AppyPappy]

Killed more Americans. That doesn’t mean it will happen next month

[Vermont Lt]

Its just a really good flu, bro. /sarc