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31 Deaths: Toll at Quebec Nursing Home in Pandemic Reflects Global Phenomenon; Health care staff fled amid Coronavirus outbreak.
New York Times ^ | 04/19/2020 | Dan Bilefsky

Posted on 04/19/2020 11:53:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

MONTREAL — Thirty-one people were found dead in less than a month at a nursing home in Montreal, at least five confirmed to have coronavirus — a powerful Canadian emblem of how nursing homes are among the places hardest hit by the pandemic.

In the United States 17 bodies were recently discovered at a long-term care facility in New Jersey, among 68 deaths linked to the residence, 26 confirmed as coronavirus cases. And it was at a long-term care facility in Kirkland, in Washington state, that Americans first got a glimpse of the horrors to come after residents fell ill with Covid-19 in late February.

The phenomenon has been seen across Europe as well. In Spain, soldiers sent to disinfect nursing homes found people abandoned, or even dead, in their beds. Italy, Britain and France have acknowledged that their official statistics have overlooked many virus-related deaths in long-term care facilities.

The deaths in Canada were discovered late last week at Résidence Herron, a private home for seniors in Montreal, after the local health authority, alarmed by staff shortages and the spread of coronavirus at the home, took control of the residence.

They found dehydrated residents lying listless in bed, unfed for days, with excrement seeping out of their diapers.

“I’d never seen anything like it in my 32-year nursing career,” said Loredana Mule, a nurse on the team. “It was horrific — there wasn’t enough food to feed people, the stench could’ve killed.

After she left the home, she said, she collapsed in her car and wept.

A skeleton staff of two nurses had been left to care for a private residence with nearly 150 beds. The remaining staff had fled amid the outbreak of the coronavirus, leaving patients, some paralyzed or with other chronic illnesses, to fend for themselves.

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; chinavirusmortality; coronavirus; newjersey; nursinghome; quebec
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1 posted on 04/19/2020 11:53:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh noes 😱😱😱😱 We’re all gonna die
2 posted on 04/19/2020 11:57:43 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

That’s the vaunted Canadian socialized medicine ( or what will be known as Medicare for all in the USA) for you...


3 posted on 04/19/2020 12:00:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m sure they’ll send a Get Well card to those that are still alive; condolence cards to the families of those that died.


4 posted on 04/19/2020 12:04:18 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SeekAndFind
with nearly 150 beds. The remaining staff had fled amid the outbreak of the coronavirus, leaving patients, some paralyzed or with other chronic illnesses, to fend for themselves.

Very sad, hard to believe, heart-wrenching. And in Canada???

5 posted on 04/19/2020 12:04:37 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it was Spain where they found a nursing home where the patients had just been abandoned. All the staff had fled.

Sad.


6 posted on 04/19/2020 12:05:12 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SeekAndFind

At least they didn’t film themselves laughing in front of the dying patients.


7 posted on 04/19/2020 12:06:12 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: Mr. Blond

RE: At least they didn’t film themselves laughing in front of the dying patients.

What sick, twisted, evil person would do that?


8 posted on 04/19/2020 12:08:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of the things that nobody has bothered to notice in this new politically motivated hysteria is that the most “isolated” people are the first to die, which is why there have been mass deaths in isolated nursing homes.

They’re not in contact with normal stuff. We should go back to a system where they can live at home if possible but otherwise not very far away and be visited regularly by a PA and attended by a non-medical person who pops in a couple of times a day to take care of them and make sure they’re okay, change the linens, check on any device they have, etc. The elderly would do a lot better by having personal contact with both professional caregivers and family than by being restricted, and they’d do better in smaller environments.

I read an article today that said that most of the deaths from this current virus outbreak would have happened within about a year anyway, since the people were in bad health to begin with and the next regular flu sweep would have brought them the “old man’s friend,” aka, pneumonia.

To my knowledge, this is the first time a disease is being used as a weapon by a political party. And their actions are killing Americans, either from the virus or from the total Dem-motivated economic disaster that is going to occur.


9 posted on 04/19/2020 12:10:00 PM PDT by livius (A proud Flubra...no cup size requests please.)
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To: SeekAndFind

True story, happened not that long ago. 2 black nurses laughed while the old white man died.


10 posted on 04/19/2020 12:13:48 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: SeekAndFind

on a normal day,
in New York City,
how many people are found dead?

100...1000...??

just curious


11 posted on 04/19/2020 12:22:42 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Quebec...French surrender monkeys.


12 posted on 04/19/2020 12:23:53 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Yes, I CAN take a joke /s)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Choueiri family — Lebanese — own a half-dozen such places, and this isn’t their first brush with the authorities. They have a long history of complaints — understaffing, underqualified staff, poor care, even money-laundering. Places like this, where the elderly are warehoused until death, have trouble finding and keeping decent staff. They tend to draw heavily from the lower reaches of society and immigrants. It’s not at all unusual for staffers simply to disappear without a word and never return. And theft from and abuse of residents is common.


13 posted on 04/19/2020 12:30:03 PM PDT by Blurb2350
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To: SeekAndFind

Taking care of the elderly that cannot take care of themselvesThat are not your relatives is very challenging task under normal circumstances

What we’re learning is that the workers at these places are the ones that are traveling around and bringing the virus into these facilities

there’s going to be much change the screening processes for elderly care facilities coming

Fortunately for us I think it’s mostly going to be temperature screening - which is a very fair and very easy and very non-invasive way to screen people

Do you have a temperature. Ok you can’t come in - sorry !

you don’t ? you pass on by

This is par for the course in Asia for decades now


14 posted on 04/19/2020 12:30:34 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: DannyTN

Same thing happened during Hurricane Katrina. 30 patients drowned in one nursing home, and in another,the doctor and nurses gave lethal injections to some patients.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/sep/14/hurricanekatrina.usa1

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/magazine/30doctors.html


15 posted on 04/19/2020 12:34:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Quebec.

Canada varies a fair bit from province to province, on the whole much more variation than one gets in the States, and no province is more “other” than Quebec. I’d bet 80%+ of the residents were Quebec natives and 80%+ of the staff were not.

Nothing against immigrants per se, but it does help if the team has skin in the game.


16 posted on 04/19/2020 12:36:24 PM PDT by Hieronymus (“I shall drink to the Pope, if you please, still, to conscience first, and to the Pope afterwards.Â)
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To: livius
people are free to keep their elderly in their homes....either that or not complain about what happens there...

the staff is paid poorly with poor benefits....if someone dare to call in sick, they are not replaced, the others will just have to fill in....

try feeding 150 people by hand 3x a day, with people that barely swallow...

try keeping 150 incontinent patients clean and dry...

try not getting punched out by the demented agitated older guy still with lots of strength.... its not an easy job...

ultimately, people will have to keep their elders in their own homes.....

we don't have the money to keep them warehoused and expect good results....

17 posted on 04/19/2020 12:37:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Truthoverpower
the change will be that govt will expect you to take care of your own elderly in your own home, period.....

no more relying on poorly paid strangers to do it....

people will always say "oh they took care of the little kids and now we should take care of them"....good sentiment...however, cleaning up a bubbling laughing cutiepie of a one year old is far different than working with a resistant, stiff, agitated obese patient with wounds....not a lot of cuteness there.... what is going to happen in America is that we'll finally see how most of the whole world works....generations stay in the same house and people care for one another... we had our little brother between us in bed for some time when my grandma lived at our house....the 3 other boys shared a room and my parents had a room and my grandma had her own room.....she was beloved...

18 posted on 04/19/2020 12:45:12 PM PDT by cherry
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Most people have no experience with the frail bedridden elderly in nursing homes. The patients are being kept alive by the care of mostly low paid aides. Even in the better places, family members need to visit often. What happens to people who have no family?

Have any of these outbreaks with several deaths occurred in retirement communities or, even, assisted living facilities? Maybe one of the chief correlations with dying from Covid-19 is being bedridden, which makes a person very susceptible to pneumonia. I wonder if any statistics are being kept on that.

It is very sad, but should we be quarantining the entire population of our country?

19 posted on 04/19/2020 12:55:37 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Truthoverpower

RE: Do you have a temperature. Ok you can’t come in - sorry !

you don’t ? you pass on by


Unfortunately, a huge chunk of those infected are ASYMPTOMATIC. They infect others while seemingly normal themselves... this is what infects the most vulnerable like the elderly.


20 posted on 04/19/2020 12:59:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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