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US coronavirus death totals compiled by CDC will now include 'probable' cases
cnn ^ | April 15 2020 | Steve Almasy and Christina Maxouris

Posted on 04/19/2020 8:35:27 AM PDT by rintintin

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To: rintintin

They’ll go to any length to justify their B.S. predictions of gloom and doom and keep everybody locked down under their boot. They still hope to make this into the Black Death.


21 posted on 04/19/2020 8:49:42 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: rintintin

The numbers were already being padded... now they will be padded more.


22 posted on 04/19/2020 8:50:50 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: rintintin

And there goes any serious attempt to retrospectively and objectively do an after action review to find out what worked, what didn’t, and how we should handle this next time.


23 posted on 04/19/2020 8:51:23 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: Sacajaweau

“..And all these positives that have no symptoms have A PIECE of the Coronavirus but not the virus in fact...”

Huh?


24 posted on 04/19/2020 8:52:29 AM PDT by moonhawk (I need a new tagline.)
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To: ripnbang

Exactly. The data is so distorted now that it will be useless.


25 posted on 04/19/2020 8:58:09 AM PDT by livius
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To: RJS1950

A lot of posters here and other sites have thought that this entire thing was suspicious from the start. Kudos to you all who have never backed off that stance.


26 posted on 04/19/2020 8:59:55 AM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: Herodes

For healthcare facilities, there is a financial incentive. They get 15% more money for Wuhan virus cases than if someone is listed as dying of COPD, asthma or heart disease.


27 posted on 04/19/2020 9:01:13 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: moonhawk

“..And all these positives that have no symptoms have A PIECE of the Coronavirus but not the virus in fact...”

Huh?


Are you questioning my medical degree?!

I got it straight from the back of the box, and Captain Crunch signed it, himself!


28 posted on 04/19/2020 9:02:07 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: rintintin
No “now” about it.
New York has been including probable and not so probable cases for weeks to pump up heir coronavirus deaths to get more federal money and bring Trump down in November.
29 posted on 04/19/2020 9:03:13 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: madison10

“So now we know how they will count those mail in ballots...”

Quote of the day!


30 posted on 04/19/2020 9:04:13 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Da Coyote
Agreed. If CNN or any MSM outlet is promoting it, whatever "it" is - it has to be bad for America.

So, they need to keep the numbers up, gotta keep the fear up. The viability of the models is falling apart. People are realizing this whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. We've been played, we've been had. End this BS now!

31 posted on 04/19/2020 9:06:18 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Starboard
.. CDC wanted to be rigorous, accurate and precise in their data

             

32 posted on 04/19/2020 9:11:40 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: rintintin

So.

1. They are using standards different from any other infection.

2. They are now using different standards than when they first began for covid.

They can now falsely claim that the number of deaths continue to rise although it may be quite the opposite.


33 posted on 04/19/2020 9:15:25 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: ClearCase_guy

“People are catching on that this is really just the flu. Not even an especially bad flu season.”

I simply don’t know. How do we explain all of those deaths in New York City?


34 posted on 04/19/2020 9:16:07 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: MNDude

When is Trump going to call this swamp out? It looks like never. He has all of its top bureaucrats - from CDC FDA NIH - standing with him at his briefings.

Trump ran against the swamp, but he hasn’t done mischief if anything to drain it. Just look at the people he’s put into FBI and CIA. Insiders and establishment Bushies to a man (or woman)

Sigh


35 posted on 04/19/2020 9:21:23 AM PDT by rintintin (qu)
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To: SmokingJoe

The number we see every day, posted like an election day vote tally, has no context. I’d like to see acute respiratory deaths vs. the median respiratory deaths for the same time period. It could conceivably be fewer deaths. The difference would certainly be a much smaller number.


36 posted on 04/19/2020 9:22:44 AM PDT by hawgwalker
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To: rintintin

Hopefully Trump steps in and says “Fine. But I still want the numbers of “proven Covid deaths” as a separate line item. Put them side by side when you present anywhere.”


37 posted on 04/19/2020 9:29:02 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Unredact the 99 Collyer Report!!!)
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To: tbw2

Interesting...I did not know that. Thanks for sharing.


38 posted on 04/19/2020 9:30:40 AM PDT by Herodes
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To: rintintin

With the new add ons for victims NY had 540 fatalities on the 17th and Cuomo announce it had 507 yesterday. So actual numbers are likely lower. And fatalities are a lagging indicator of the virus prevalence.


39 posted on 04/19/2020 9:42:47 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Starboard

But...but...I thought CDC wanted to be rigorous, accurate and “precise in their data.”

Precise would be: Confirmed deaths; Probable deaths; Possible deaths: To lump then all into a single category doesn’t pass the smell test for people who can still think for themselves


40 posted on 04/19/2020 9:46:34 AM PDT by RonnG (')
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