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New York/NYC Mortality Rates shockingly high - Why?
Self | 04/19/2020 | Motoman

Posted on 04/19/2020 8:23:59 AM PDT by motoman

We need some big-data answers as to why New York/New York City mortality rates are so unnacceptably high.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19
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To: reasonisfaith

It is really sad. When I think how Obama let all the drugs, the illegal immigrants, the shootings, the murders, the sickness, the riots, innocent Children murdered every night in the Ghettos it breaks my heart. Obama was the worst enemy American Blacks have ever had..period!!! God bless POTUS, Donald J. Trump!!!


101 posted on 04/19/2020 9:54:21 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forev er!!!)
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To: nbenyo

The first known NYC case was an Iranian health care worker who had been to Iran.

https://apnews.com/42dcd4edafb7ca57767a58b3e82a3375


102 posted on 04/19/2020 10:02:13 AM PDT by jjotto (“Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.”)
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To: motoman
What is happening or not happening in New York to allow for this?

NY is pimping the numbers to juice the virus count up, so that more NY hospitals get uncle sugar dollars.

In the load of 3700 people that got added to the chi-com virus death stats last week, one guy was 94 years old, smoked all of his life and had cancer, yet he got lumped into the virus death count.

The numbers are pure Bullshit.

The chi-coms are under counting and the New Yorkers are padding the count.

Both are lying but for different reasons.

103 posted on 04/19/2020 10:14:11 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I’m with you a hundred percent.


104 posted on 04/19/2020 10:16:42 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: al_c

Subways and JFK/Newark International Airports. Perfect recipe for spread.


105 posted on 04/19/2020 10:21:41 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: motoman

NY state is counting the untested dead who displayed similar symptoms as having died of covid-19. That may account for about 40% of NY’s numbers, given that 10,000 dead suddenly became 14,000 dead. Other states haven’t begun counting their covid-19 dead that way. NY’s population also skews older:

http://www.usa.com/rank/us—median-age—state-rank.htm

Note that a number of other states fare worse than NY’s (% dead vs total cases) before NY bumped up its dead number to include the untested deceased. MI’s %, without stacking on the untested, is about the same as NY’s test+untested %.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us


106 posted on 04/19/2020 10:41:02 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: motoman

Why? Many reasons but one is high legal and illegal alien populations. Dense living conditions, reliance on public transportation, historic spending on welfare benefits and not health infrastructure. Large population of non-believers. Just a few reasons.

It’s also a s*hole.


107 posted on 04/19/2020 10:55:34 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: motoman

NYC is a dump. Living within 25 miles of the Statue of Liberty is a co-morbidity factor for 100% of the population.


108 posted on 04/19/2020 11:03:26 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Because it’s an invasion every bit as effective as 9/11. In fact, more so.


109 posted on 04/19/2020 11:05:49 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: motoman; Arlis

NYC deaths plummet!

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3836732/posts?page=1

h/t arlis

What’s up?

TIA.


110 posted on 04/19/2020 11:08:21 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Paladin2

I was thinking the initial viral load, too.


111 posted on 04/19/2020 11:12:13 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: motoman

Maybe there’s a lot of confederates there.


112 posted on 04/19/2020 11:16:03 AM PDT by stuckinloozeeana
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To: motoman

Live in the big city they said.
It’s the best thing for the planet they said.
Ride the public transit they said, think of your limited carbon footprint they said.

Walk on sidewalks so close to others you’re practically wearing their clothes.
Live in crowded spaces like sardines.
Ride in subways so close together you might as well be giving daily mouth to mouth resuscitation.

Now they’re shocked, SHOCKED, about what’s happening to them.


113 posted on 04/19/2020 11:20:45 AM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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To: motoman

Targeted. President Trump’s hometown. His people. Plus, it’s overcrowded and holds a lot of folks who are not on the up and up.


114 posted on 04/19/2020 11:23:03 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Paladin2
And hence a higher viral “load” on contact.

Bingo!

115 posted on 04/19/2020 11:25:31 AM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: motoman

Because the new rule from CDC to count all not positive but “probable” and “cause unknown” deaths as caronavirus. They then wend back to the first dates and included them all - a huge jump.

That’s called padding the books.


116 posted on 04/19/2020 11:30:36 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Zhang Fei
NY state is counting the untested dead who displayed similar symptoms as having died of covid-19.

Untested, how are COVID-19 symptoms different than flu symptoms?

117 posted on 04/19/2020 11:49:35 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: South Hawthorne; al_c; motoman
"More likely, they're classifying every natural death to corona in hopes of getting more aid dollars and consolidating power."

Bingo!
I think we have a winner here.

On average, just under 1% of Americans die every year of natural causes -- it works out to about 8,000 per day.
Of those, 2/3 die from well known reasons -- heart, cancer, lungs, stroke, Alzheimer & diabetes, etc.

Now we see Covid-19 producing up to 2,000 deaths per day, but are those in addition to the other 8,000 or are we just reclassifying many who were knocking on death's door anyway as now "Covid deaths"?

One thing is a certainty of human nature -- whenever the government is handing out "free money", many smart people will figure out ways to maximize their own "fair shares".

118 posted on 04/19/2020 11:53:35 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: motoman
Ok, so why are these demographic factors any different than people hospitalized in Dallas, Tx there the death rate is 1/3?

Is there a web-site for Dallas that lists mortalities by race?

119 posted on 04/19/2020 12:06:12 PM PDT by Fury
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To: motoman

One reason:

Mass Transit exposure over & over again—& getting assistance too late.


120 posted on 04/19/2020 12:10:59 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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