Posted on 04/19/2020 7:34:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
There is not, as of writing, any medication which has been shown in controlled trials to significantly hasten recovery from covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus that's become a global pandemic. Last week, there were nonetheless some new developments on that front. One drug seems to show signs of promise. Another has seen red flags raised.
The one that's raised hopes isn't the one that President Donald Trump has been hyping.
Again: It is not the case that we have new, incontrovertible proof of a drug's efficacy. But news of a trial demonstrating some benefit for covid-19 patients from the anti-viral drug remdesivir helped push the stock market higher on Friday. A report from the National Institutes of Health further suggested that the drug had halted the progression of covid-19 - at least in monkeys.
For the anti-malarial drug hydroxychloroquine, the news was less positive. There's still no demonstrated evidence that improvements after taking the drug are causal. A number of controlled studies in fact failed to demonstrate evidence that hydroxychloroquine or a related drug, chloroquine, had an effect on the disease. A New York family blames the drug for causing their mother's heart attack - an unproven claim but one in line with concerns about use of the drug. The CIA even warned its employees about using the drug due to the possibility of "sudden cardiac death."
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Washington Compost, making the NY Slimes look Conservative.
The conclusion seems to be that it does not. At least not always.>>>>>
Interesting how you put it.
The conclusion is that it DOES NOT?
Except in what percentage of the cases?
HCQ is used as a preventative for Covid 19 all over he world. Not only that , during the SARS epidemic, Anthony Fauci was screaming for the application of HCQ.
https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/3620
But of course, the Nay sayers cannot explain why Dr. Daniel Wallace, a famous rheumatologist from California, has 2000 Lupus patients who he is now treating with HCQ . Only one has become infected with COVID 18, but he has serious immunity issues.
Yes HCQ does not work all of the time as a preventative does it?( sarc.)
Then there are all the Wuhan Lupus patients who were being treated with HCQ who also did not contract COVID 19.
But Stay away from that HCQ, its DANGEROUS STUFF, because the Nanny State and the left says so!( sarc.)
What a laugh.
HCQ will be used in massive quantities to reopen our nation.
And the arm chair quarterbacks will still be in denial, until they are faced with the choice to use it and go back to work,,,,,or NOT.
RE: The conclusion is that it DOES NOT?
So, what do you make of the conclusion of the Global Rheumatology Alliance in the link I posted?
The only conclusion I can make ( assuming their study is valid ) is that it does not ALWAYS protect people from being infected with Covid-19.
But I will concede that NOTHING is 100% protective. I don’t even think that Hydoxychloroquine protects against Malaria 100% of the time.
All they presented was this:
“Over 9,500 patients have submitted surveys to the alliance, of which nearly half were diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis or lupus. Nearly a third of all respondents with the chronic disease said they were taking hydroxychloroquine, of which 189 (7 percent) said they were diagnosed with the virus.”
So, half of the 9,500 respondents means 4,750 lupus or Rheumatoid arthritis patients. A third of this 4,750 says they were taking hydroxychloroquine for their condition,that means nearly 1,600 of them were taking HCQ.
Of these, 189 said they were diagnose with the virus. The un-answered question is this -— what about the other 4,750 -189 = 4,561 lupus or Rheumatoid arthritis patients? Were they similarly exposed to the virus as the other 189?
We don’t know. But if we assume that they were, it still means that HCQ somehow helped to protect the 93% of the lupus patients.
I’ll take anything above 90% as a huge win. 100% is best but I don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Nice.
The Beijington Post and The New Xi Times.
Touche’!
Infiltrated? Absolutely, disinformation and propaganda. There is no indication that this “local paper” has any reason to be an expert in this matter, however, their obscure position paper got picked up by the WAPO because it fit the defend Chi-Coms at all costs narrative.
By the way as frank ballinger (19 of 43) noted,who was it that started trying to patents on these drugs as soon as the disease was discovered?
Its a local newspaper which also picks up and runs stories from other news services, in this case the WaPo.
Position paper?
They are in journalism and in Connecticut. I believe they were infiltrated by the following: 1) Commies, 2) Idiotic Morons and 3) Connecticut Kooks...
It surely does count, and as the doctors do not have a reason to lie it counts good as gold to me.
All 5he people doing “studies” are getting paid to do them by people who want very badly for the study to show that a drug that has already passed the FDA trials and been on the market for twenty years suddenly has unacceptable side effects.
Not gonna happen...
Or show it is ineffective when actual field trials with human subjects from around the world show it is amazingly effective.
agree, this article is wrong on so many facts and points, 1)Trump has been mentioning Remdesivir, 2)-the reason Hydroxychloroquine is mentioned so much is because there are so many positive reports and cases, 3) there are millions of users who use Hydrox low cost ,the heart attack report is fake news doctors on the scene did not attribute it to Hydroxychloroquine
this is simply unscientific reporting
Ivmectrin
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