Posted on 04/19/2020 7:34:17 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
” Why promote that drug, and why so energetically?”
Why not, since the media aren’t doing anything to help discover/create a better treatment.
The LSM need to get off their ample butts and and shut themsselves down to limit continuing fear mongering.
President Trump touted HCQ AND Remdesivir in that first presser when he said HCQ/azithromycin combo looks like it might help. The media are such liars.
Analysts at RBC Capital Markets expect Gilead would price the drug at around $900 to $1,000 or lower per course, a cost above oral flu drugs but below new intravenous antibiotics.
About 35 paragraphs down...
Yeah.
I was told all I needed to go grocery shopping was a mask and gloves.
The lied to me. They LIED!!!
When I got to the store, everyone else was wearing clothes!
Here are the findings of a front-line emergency doctor in NYC. You can’t be any more front-line than Dr Sam Girgis (@DrSamGirgis) and he’s very fair. In a crisis, I wouldn’t mind if he was my doctor.
From his tweet yesterday:
These #COVID19 treatments appear to help patients:
1. Proning to improve hypoxia & prevent intubation
2. HCQ/Zpak/Zinc if used early otherwise useless <—
3. Remdesivir <———————
4. IL6 inhibition (we use Tocilizumab & Sarilumab) <-—
***This is our experience but more studies are needed
There are other ‘anecdotal’ stories that I picked up on twitter where HCQ/Zpack (with or without zinc) has helped with patients with breathing issues or bad xrays. However for some of the NYC patients I noticed that the doctors had to quickly escalate to Remdesivir and/or Tocilizumab. I think NYC/NJ might have got a more severe covid19 strain than other cities.
It's the local paper from Stamford CT.
You think they've been infiltrated?
Very possible. Areas with large Chinese expat populations, Lombardy area of Italy, NYC, Seattle for example tend to have earlier outbreaks, and higher fatality rates.
There is some evidence that the virus reverts to a less virulent form over time. Compare the fatality rate in Wuhan (not the "official" rate, but the rate that caused the officials to lock down a city of 11 million, weld people into their apartment buildings, bring in 40 industrial incinerators to keep up with the 'medical waste', etc.) to the rate elsewhere in the world. The more generations of patients before introduction to a new area, the lower the fatality rate in that area.
You think they've been infiltrated?
Human nature says they are too lazy to do their own research.
ESPECIALLY when a story comes over the transom from a plausible sounding source, AND it agrees with their own deeply held bias.
Or they don't have the resources.
That's why they're reprinting this story from the WaPo.
I would have expected to see San Fran cases to be extremely high due to a large Chinese population. I am stunned at the low deaths in Australia, which also has a large Chinese pop and dense cities. Vancouver ‘Hongcouver’ went from being an expected hotspot to having deaths dropping fast. It’s hard to understand the patterns sometimes.
Yeah, we see through a glass darkly.
Good point.
I was wrong when I said from a plausible sounding source...
If given the choice between anecdotal evidence and a “controlled study” by someone hoping to sell their own product I must admit I trust raw data over controlled results.
A a hundred Doctors say it works in the field. A medical researcher paid by someone with an agenda says his artificial study shows it does not work.
Great one. As always from you.
You should tried that at the Godiva place if it was open.
RE: If given the choice between anecdotal evidence and a “controlled study” by someone hoping to sell their own product I must admit I trust raw data over controlled results.
What if scores of doctors all over the world are getting positive results WITHOUT the benefit of a controlled study? Does that count?
Philip Bump has suffered through his life with a name like that, so BUMP him out of your vision and totally disregard what he says.
He is a wounded journalist.
I hope what he wrote wasn’t too disturbing.
DemRATs will try to keep the economy in artificial depression until, they hope, they win the election in November at which time they’ll introduce a miracle cure for coronavirus called taxurassoff.
When exactly did Trump or Fox for that matter ever present Hydroxychloroquine as a silver bullet? My recollection is that Trump presented it as something that had according to reports shown a good success rate and that what was there to lose by trying it.
Hey, I just realized I wrote basically the same thing as you but not as well. Sorry I didn’t mean to Biden you.
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