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Stanford study suggests coronavirus is more widespread than realized
Spectator USA ^ | April 17, 2019 | Ross Clark

Posted on 04/17/2020 4:17:22 PM PDT by fireman15

If SARS-Cov-2 is already endemic in the population, there is nothing we can do to stop it — but no great reason to try to stop it, either

Another day, and yet more evidence has appeared that could indicate the number of people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19, might be vastly higher than official figures suggest. This time a Californian study suggests the figure in one county could be more than 50 times the number who knew they had had the virus.

A team from Stanford University and other colleges recruited volunteers in Santa Clara County via Facebook adverts and produced a sample of 3,000 representatives of the county as a whole. They were then invited for blood tests to detect the presence of antibodies to the virus. The result was positive in 1.5 percent of cases. Adjusting for age, gender and ethnicity the results suggest that 2.8 percent of people in the county had already had the virus. That might not seem many, but at the time of the study — on April 4 and 5 — only 1,094 people in the county were recorded as having the virus. The study suggests the real figure is between 48,000 and 81,000.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billionsinfected; coronavirus; covid19; millionsdead; pandemic
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They managed to keep this under wraps for a couple of weeks, probably because it shows what is going to eventually come out anyway. The lockdowns even in hotspots have largely been a complete waste. This has been going around longer and is much more widespread than initially presumed.
1 posted on 04/17/2020 4:17:22 PM PDT by fireman15
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The good news is that the actual mortality rate is likely almost no different than a typical flu virus.


2 posted on 04/17/2020 4:19:11 PM PDT by fireman15
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And the bad news is that when you do get it, it’s a nasty mofo that you may not walk away from


3 posted on 04/17/2020 4:23:58 PM PDT by Regulator
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Related...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3836161/posts


4 posted on 04/17/2020 4:28:45 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!!!)
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“The good news is that the actual mortality rate is likely almost no different than a typical flu virus.”

yep: “the figure in one county could be more than 50 times the number who knew they had had the virus.” meaning the mortality rate could be 50 times lower than the various wild ass guesses being thrown around, particularly by the gaggle of “sky is falling” trolls that keep post BS articles with ridiculous mortality rates ...

also, that level of infection is good news for at least three other reason:

1. Herd immunity is well underway, so this thing will burn itself out sooner than the “experts” expected.

2. There’s no rational reason to keep economies shutdown in any fashion whatsoever, because the cat is already WAY, WAY, WAY out of the bag already.

3. “contact-tracing” is useless, again because the cat is WAY, WAY, WAY out of the bag already.


5 posted on 04/17/2020 4:28:48 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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It is probably still a good idea to try to isolate the people at risk; i.e., the elderly and the infirm; while the herd immunity builds.

I can work remotely for quite a while, and I think I may even after they lift the lock downs, just to see how it pans out.


6 posted on 04/17/2020 4:34:36 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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Never let a crisis......It is like a pitcher showing what he will pitch and we still swing and miss. You know what the narrative is? The narrative is that Trump always knew. Trump could have prevented this. Trump is doing nothing but being Hitler. Every f-ing HOUR locally and nationally something else is dying on the vine. The true virus is the left.


7 posted on 04/17/2020 4:35:16 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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And the bad news is that when you do get it, it’s a nasty mofo that you may not walk away from

On the fire department that I retired from 11 people tested positive two weeks ago. 1 had symptoms that he thought was hay fever from high pollen. 10 never developed any symptoms. All 11 now test negative.

My wife and I both volunteered and worked at the ill fated Life Care Center in Kirkland the first place to have fatalities in the country. This was a place with a lot of very sick people on both respirators and feeding tubes. In a population like that it is devastating.

The deciding factor is a combination of how much virus you got on first contact, the condition of your immune system, and whether you have a medical history that makes you more vulnerable. If you were exposed to just a small amount of viral load and you have a no health problems there is a good chance your body developed antibodies before you developed any symptoms.

8 posted on 04/17/2020 4:37:05 PM PDT by fireman15
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Stanford study suggests coronavirus is more widespread than realized.

If SARS-Cov-2 is already endemic in the population, there is nothing we can do to stop it — but no great reason to try to stop it, either!

Let's repeat that statement!

Stanford study suggests coronavirus is more widespread than realized!

If SARS-Cov-2 is already endemic in the population, there is nothing we can do to stop it —

Say again: but no great reason to try to stop it, either!

9 posted on 04/17/2020 4:37:49 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs, their blatant ownership of America, fake news media/CNN, the real Deep Staters?)
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“It is probably still a good idea to try to isolate the people at risk; i.e., the elderly and the infirm; while “

for those in high-risk nursing-home and “independent” type communal living situations, special precautions definitely need to be taken until C-19 burns out ... for the rest of us aged-at-risk who are still living in our own homes, those are choices we can each make for ourselves ...


10 posted on 04/17/2020 4:42:04 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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“The good news is that the actual mortality rate is likely almost no different than a typical flu virus.”
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What these figures mean to me is that the mortality rate, OVERALL, is likely LOWER than that of many annual flu epidemics. But, given the short time this virus has been extant in the USA, COVID-19 is likely MUCH MORE CONTAGIOUS than ordinary flu viruses. And lastly, compared to the typical flu, COVID-19 may be much more deadly to highly vulnerable and people with comorbidities.


11 posted on 04/17/2020 4:43:20 PM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT)
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The governors get to roll the dice—winners get to run for higher office, losers get to end their careers in infamy.

Fun times.

Those who claim to know what is really going on are either fools or liars imho.


12 posted on 04/17/2020 4:43:30 PM PDT by cgbg (Pattern recognition is the first sign of intelligence.)
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In a country of well over 300 million people, when this is all said and done, I bet over 100 million will have been infected....

Hopefully we continue massive testing to get a true reading what is happening...


13 posted on 04/17/2020 4:47:25 PM PDT by srmanuel
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'study suggests'

More 'modeling' by 'experts'.

14 posted on 04/17/2020 4:47:33 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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When they started the test on the 5th they said they should release the data in about a week - which would have been the 12th.

It wasn’t that late.


15 posted on 04/17/2020 4:55:12 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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It went through my office and my wife got it from me in January. I was coughing non-stop so badly I took two sick days, which I NEVER do, and it took two months to clear the phlegm from my lungs. It was the worst thing I ever had, and everybody I know who had it said the same thing

It’s been around for a while, even in the middle of the country.


16 posted on 04/17/2020 4:56:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a bag of hammers.)
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Between 5 and 20% of people get the flu each year. Around 70% would catch Covid19 fiver did nothing.


17 posted on 04/17/2020 4:59:11 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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“The lockdowns even in hotspots have largely been a complete waste.”

And there is no good reason continue the lockdown, nor roll it back in stages. Trump should reccomend ALL states stop their lockdowns now! Not slowly over 6 weeks!!!

Every day more and more lose their livelihoods, many permanently. Close to a million a day!!! Let that sink in:

1 million people per day lose their jobs!!! End the lockdown completely!!!!!!!


18 posted on 04/17/2020 5:02:54 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Unredact the 99 Collyer Report!!!)
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How many elderly people who are in good health, with no underlying health problems, have died from the C-virus or even been very sick needing hospitalization? I have seen no reports on that. Seniors will need that information in order to make an informed decision.


19 posted on 04/17/2020 5:04:13 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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“It is probably still a good idea to try to isolate the people at risk; i.e., the elderly and the infirm; while the herd immunity builds.“

Yep. Common sense used to teach us not to go visit grandma when we are sick. I thought everyone knew that until this nonsense.

Best thing we can do right now is get the kids back in school. Get the workers back to work. Grandparents, we will see you in a bit, once this thing burns itself out.


20 posted on 04/17/2020 5:08:13 PM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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