That appears to be where this is headed.
yes and even flu numbers are way higher than they say because most people don’t even bother reporting it- most people get it mildly, and so it gets under-reported- -
ok so solitary confinement is the only option
15% in New York had the virus 2 weeks ago.
“Between March 22 and April 4, those hospitals screened 215 pregnant women for SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19), and 33 women, or 15%, tested positive. Of these who tested positive, 29 women — or nearly 14% — showed no symptoms.” https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-in-pregnant-woman-high-nyc.html
Because its been in California since Mid December..100 percent guaranteed..they gotta antibody test folks here its been around, non stop flights from Wuhan from December to San Fran and LAX, and we are supposed to believe NONE of them were infected..please
no surprise here...
What is the rate of false positives with this test?
So, a lot of people tested for antibodies with a non-validated test came up positive. It looks to me like they're detecting people who have had ordinary coronavirus infections--in other words, it's detecting people who had colds.
I know the narrative that quadzillions of people have already had Covid-19 and we therefore can stop the quarantines is popular, but it is not supported by facts. In order for Covid-19 to be so widespread already, it would have to be at least an order of magnitude more contagious than the common cold (it *is* a cold virus). It would have to be more contagious than the most contagious virus known, measles. That just is not biologically or epidemiologically plausible.
There is not an approved, validated test yet.
"That scientists in Germany and California have been able to perform antibody tests on good-sized samples of the population yet again raises the question: why have we still not performed such studies elsewhere? One of the problems, we are told, is that antibody tests have proved inaccurate. The UK government bought a job lot of antibody tests from China and then decided they were useless. But surely we have the facilities to perform high-quality laboratory tests of the sort used in the Stanford and Gangelt studies? Isn’t it about time we got moving on this?"
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The more I read of this article (and others) the more I think that:
.... NEARLY ALL THESE "EXPERTS" SHOULD BE PLACED IN A LARGE ROOM WITH A GOOD NUMBER OF VERY HUNGRY WILD CATS.
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OPEN THINGS UP
This came along just after the impeachment campaign collapsed. A perfect opportunity to destroy the economy and Trump’s claim to reelection. Americans readily went along as vast majority want safety, comfort, security over messy ol’ freedom.
Whatever the reality, no doubt media overhyped. I would guess ratings have gone through the roof. Folks at home and now hooked on fear porn.
Well on our way to herd immunity...open the country up.
The significance of this study cannot be overstated.
Zero basis for lockdown.
I am positive the wife and I had COVID in late Dec to Jan. We live in MD. Both of us had the exact symptoms and I wound up with bronchitis and she with pneumonia. We were sick for a month. Antibiotics did nothing, and it was not until the third visit to urgent care my wife got antiviral medicine that started to improve.
My possible brush with the Corona crud this past winter. I live about 60 air miles from where this study was done:
81 year old male in fairly good health. Immunizations and other problems:
INFs Pres Free High Dose (FLUZONE) (influenza)
Administered 9/26/2019
ZOS (Herpes zoster recombinant) Shingrix
Administered 10/4/2019, and then I had a mild fever my arm ached like a mule kicked it for About 4 days.
After the above, I felt great and had increased my mile walk to twice a day.
NOV/27/2019:
Two days before Thanksgiving, after I woke up and got out of bed, I had blood in my urine and a swollen rt. testicle and 100 degree temp. I felt like that mule kicked me over my right kidney. I had felt good the day before and did about an hour of PT with a physical therapist and my walks.
The next day I had the fever, blood in my urine and the ache described above.
When that happens to an 81 year old male, the Clinics immediately bring you in.
I saw a doctor very quickly at our local big clinic that afternoon.
She prescribed a week’s therapy of Levaquin*, an oral fluoroquinolone, which I got at the pharmacy, shortly after seeing the doctor. I took my first dose in our car while my wife drove us home. They also, got a urine sample from me, before I left the building. There was no infection just red blood in my urine. That went away after about 24 hours on the meds.
Then, the various tests for a kidney problem showed nothing.
From that onset to about the middle of March, I had all the symptoms reported by other freepers:
Low energy, lack of taste, headache, chills and lower GI problems. Very cold feet and hands, which I never have.
During our family Christmas dinner and
Exchange of presents, I probably passed my crud on to one of our adult sons, who had The crud until about 3 weeks ago. He missed more work in a couple of months with the crud.
Our grandson apparently got the crud and didn’t feel good for a few days.
Both of these guys are basically never sick.
None of our women folk got the crud. Ages 20-80
As noted in previous posts, several male friends, who had zero contact with me in Nov/Dec/Jan..
Had similar symptons. One friend labeled it the AT&T/Comcast flu as we had zero physical interactions before the crud besides phone calls and texting.
This Stanford study may explain what was happening to us.
*Levaquin, (levofloxacin) is in a class of antibiotics called fluoroquinolones. Other antibiotics in this class of drugs include ciprofloxacin (Cipro), norfloxacin, (Noroxin), ofloxacin (Floxin), trovafloxacin (Trovan), lomefloxacin (Maxaquin), gatifloxacin (Tequin), and moxifloxacin (Avelox).
The new narrative is things won’t EVER get better and we need more time.......into the heart of the Presidential election.
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So, does this mean herd immunity is farther along than previously thought?
That has been my contention for a month. "Flu" went through my county in February and early march. No one that I know of died from it. Some folks were quite sick for two weeks or so. Many people had symptoms but were not particularly sick. I had an uncharacteristic headache and that persistent dry cough for a day.Few people stayed home from work. At the shipyard where I am a security guard, many of the guys were similarly uncomfortable but no one seemed to be actually sick.
Now five weeks later at the shipyard everybody gets his temperature checked at the gate and a few wear masks. No one is sick. There are a few diagnosed cases in the county and two elderly people with other problems have died. The numbers are increasing by ones and twos, not exponentially. Lots of people are in the stores. One WalMart only lets people in ten at a time but the long lines outside are NOT "social distancing" and maybe a third have masks.
I suspect this is no more lethal than seasonal flu but it does seem to be more traumatic for those that get a full dose. With the CCCP flu there is tremendous publicity and hand wringing for each death. Seasonal flu succumbees die quietly with no press coverage.
“Okay ...........then open everything up! “
exactly ...
“the figure in one county could be more than 50 times the number who knew they had had the virus” means that the mortality rate could be 50 times lower than the various wild ass guesses being thrown around, particularly by the gaggle of “sky is falling” trolls that keep posting BS articles here with ridiculous mortality rates ...
also, that level of infection is good news for at least three other reason:
1. Herd immunity is well underway, so this thing will burn itself out sooner than the “experts” expected.
2. There’s no rational reason to keep economies shutdown in any fashion whatsoever, because the cat is already WAY, WAY, WAY out of the bag already.
3. “contact-tracing” is useless, again because the cat is WAY, WAY, WAY out of the bag already.