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The Coronavirus Is Even More Dangerous Than Previously Thought
PeakProsperty ^ | Apr 15, 2020 | Dr Chris Martenson, PHD Pathology

Posted on 04/15/2020 5:07:25 PM PDT by DannyTN

Video at link. My notes follow.

A chart of the CFR on the US. Now at 4.24%. Thought that ramping testing would have driven percentage down.

Damage more widespread than thought. Destroys lungs, but damages kidneys, hearts and elsewhere. Heart inflamation, acute kidney disease, neurological malfunction, blood clots, intestinal damage, and liver problems.

Half of people hospitalized have blood or protein in the urine, indicating early damage to the kidneys.

14-30% of intensive care patients in NY and Wuhan have lost kidney function and require dialysis.

Losing sense of smell and taste is often an early indicator that you have been infected.

Virus "may" travel along their olfactory nerve endings straight to the central nervous system.

Ivermectin study of ventilated patients found 18.6% mortality without treatment, 7.7% with treatment.

Total weekly mortality in UK is far above the range for the last 10 years.

Same thing in New York.

China is going back on full lock down.

Singapore also relaxed the rules and saw a large increase in cases.

Biggest drop in oil demand on record by far.

Manufacturing in New York down 70%

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinafirusinfo; chinavirus; chinavirusinfo; chinavirusnews; coronavirus; covid19; cv19; doomed; fakenews; fearpers; timeline
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To: DannyTN

Science triggers some.


81 posted on 04/15/2020 6:17:25 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

If what you are saying is true the global death toll would be much bigger.

I mean, much, much bigger.

In fact the opposite is true. Testing is finding more people who didn’t even know they were sick which drives the death rate down.


82 posted on 04/15/2020 6:18:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Yeah there’s a MIT video showing the particles produced when talking. It’s a lot.

I think singing at a church service has got to really spew them out.

And there are a lot of ACE-2 receptors in the mouth and throat.


83 posted on 04/15/2020 6:20:18 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: tinyowl

I did not read all of it.

Did the author identify and tally all of the patients who already had heart, kidney or lung problems before they caught the virus?

If not, the resulting numbers are worthless.

I would ask him how much grant money he gets from either the feds or from any other associations who have an interest in government or the health industry.


84 posted on 04/15/2020 6:20:21 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: DannyTN

Oh, DannyTN again.


85 posted on 04/15/2020 6:22:01 PM PDT by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: thoughtomator

They are not all obese. My elderly uncle is fighting his losing battle and he is skinny. But old and with alzheimers.


86 posted on 04/15/2020 6:22:39 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: CitizenUSA

New study estimates that near a majority of people are being infected by asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic individuals, meaning that distancing & other normal disease prevention methods are the only thing standing between us and millions of dead Americans.


87 posted on 04/15/2020 6:23:30 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: DannyTN

I’d hate to see you all have to face something like Anthrax!


88 posted on 04/15/2020 6:23:44 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: kingpins10

yeah-it is probably way less deadly than thought based on latest facts coming in. There are probably are millions that have or had COVID 19 but never knew it. Iceland is randomly testing everybody cuz they have small population and they are finding at least 15-20% of people who have it have no symptoms and they have a fatality rate of .004 , recovered cases nearly equal cases that have it with 96% mild cases so not nearly as bad as thought or as fear mongers like to hypothesize, yes for some it is bad, but remember cancer and heart disease each kill over 500,000 each year in US, suicides which increase 1% with each 1% in unemployment are 45,0000 and will probably surpass Covid deaths.


89 posted on 04/15/2020 6:25:32 PM PDT by TECTopcat (e)
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To: silverleaf
Do you think maybe tptb just happen to suspect ...

There's of course a million maybe's, and that's what guys like this prey on.

I've listened to enough. A regular presentation would balance out what he's saying with other stuff. He's just 'I don't know! it could be terrible! I don't know! It could be terrible!'.

I think he's preying on your emotion.

It COULD be 100 times worse than he's saying. Or 1000.

This is fear mongering for clicks.

That's my opinion. Unfortunately, nobody at this point can have anything BUT opinions and guesses and ranges. But I can spot a fear monger when I see one. This guy is on HIS side, not yours.

90 posted on 04/15/2020 6:28:24 PM PDT by tinyowl
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To: Hot Tabasco
Well, unless it surpasses the data from the 2017-2018 flu, I ain't buying it........ The 2017-18 flu infected 48.8 million Americans, hospitalized 959,134 and killed 79,416.........

That's over a year. We're barely 4 months into this with extreme measures to slow it down in place worldwide and we're over 32,000 deaths in the us so far.

91 posted on 04/15/2020 6:28:27 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DuncanWaring

see post #1


92 posted on 04/15/2020 6:28:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

If you can smell my fart
We’re not far enough apart!


93 posted on 04/15/2020 6:31:37 PM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

That’s “Push social distancing”.

The smell pushes people away.


94 posted on 04/15/2020 6:33:41 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“14-30% of intensive care patients in NY and Wuhan have lost kidney function and require dialysis.”

I believe this could be linked to being on a ventilator. I wonder what the normal rate of kidney failure is for those on a ventilator for non Covid 19 reasons.


95 posted on 04/15/2020 6:37:10 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: DannyTN

As you’ve posted, it is not an all or nothing situation. We can take the virus seriously, try to limit exposure, and still keep business going. I don’t recall ever reading where you wanted it (the economy) all shut down.

I tend to side with those who think the shutdown was an overreaction, but I think Trump was acting on the best info he had at the time. Things appear to be going much better than feared, and that’s great. I also think each American is responsible for deciding how much risk they are willing to take. That said, why not wash hands, avoid coughing in other people’s faces, etc.?

Why is it an all or nothing deal with some posters? Maybe we can help stop the spread AND go about our daily business?


96 posted on 04/15/2020 6:39:40 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: lastchance

I believe that number is high because patients do not get put on a ventilator until they are almost dead.


97 posted on 04/15/2020 6:40:12 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so terrible, so disgraceful, that the federal government can not make worse)
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To: TaxPayer2000
Sadly a vaccine may never be found

... and unfortunately, despite 70 years of trying, no one has come up with a vaccine for the common cold, which includes colds caused by a number of corona virus strains.

98 posted on 04/15/2020 6:50:36 PM PDT by Tellurian (DeMullahkRats would smugly tell even God "you didn't build that".)
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To: CitizenUSA

I don’t think I ever did call for a complete shut down.

I called for quarantining all international travelers. Would have been a big task but nothing compared to the economic shutdown.

In hindsight, I think the shutdown was the right move, given that we didn’t get ahead of it. We needed time to make masks available and get medicines for it.

Even now the new cases have leveled off but aren’t dropping as quickly as I had hoped. And we do need them to drop.

The problem with everyone deciding how much risk they are willing to take, is that they are taking risks not just with themselves but with other people. Masks are better at preventing asymptomatic people from spewing particles into the air than they are at preventing people from breathing in particles. They do both. But if everyone decides for themselves, you’ll have asymptomatic people who don’t realize they have it, spreading it.


99 posted on 04/15/2020 6:55:26 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: RedMominBlueState

me


100 posted on 04/15/2020 6:58:08 PM PDT by NorthWoody (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user. - Theodore Roosevelt)
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