Posted on 04/14/2020 10:17:29 AM PDT by rktman
Civilization truly is a fragile thing. The electrical grid is susceptible to sabotage, the internet is vulnerable to being shut down, and our transportation industry is highly sensitive to fuel availability and price.
And we're never more than a few days away from anarchy when it comes to the food supply.
Rep. Thomas Massie is warning that the supply chain has been so disrupted by the coronavirus pandemic that we'll be seeing food shortages sometime in the next few weeks.
Washington Examiner:
Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie warned that the United States could face food shortages due to the brittle supply chain, bankrupting farmers and forcing them to euthanize livestock.
We are weeks, not months, away from farmers euthanizing animals that would have been sold for meat/food. Also, fruits and vegetables are going to rot in the fields. A drastic change in policy this week could ameliorate this inevitability, he tweeted Monday.
Massie shared an interview he did with a local radio show host for the tri-state area of Ohio, West Virginia, and Kentucky, during which he spoke about how the U.S. could see farmers going bankrupt and euthanizing cattle and hogs because meat processing plants have shuttered during the coronavirus pandemic.
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smokingfrog wrote:
“The Texas governor has authorized restaurants to sell bulk retail products from restaurant supply chain distributors directly to the public.”
Good news!
Figure how to repackage smaller, and we’re good to go.
EC Washington wrote:
“The food warehouses are full - some of the Freezer / Cold Storage warehouses are running out of storage space.
The problem is moving the Food from the Distribution Centers to the Supermarkets.”
What’s the reason for the bottle neck between the distribution center & supermarket?
Packaging is already set for home use, right?
What's you point? Throw away all of this stuff when simple solutions are available? Costco etc sells in bulk. YOu are a doomsday'er.
Thanks for the research on the source; there’s always an agenda....
reformedliberal wrote:
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“Isnt this the same guy that tried to hold up the stimulus?
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and the cited source is from Organic Valley, who are hard core left (I have known the founder and top officers, plus many suppliers and workers for the past 30+ years. I live 15 miles from their main office in WI. They sold non-organic cattle feed as organic, for example. I distrust them all.)
The supply chains could be opened so public and retailers could purchase from former restaurant suppliers. Allow meat & milk from the farm. Butter and simple cheeses are easily made at home. Support CSAs.
Not everyone can grow a garden, let alone raise meat animals, including chickens.”
As I’ve posted before. Current Western economics and governments are like a Faberge Egg. Beautiful, elegant, intelligent and very fragile. Below that is a pretty resultant group of people but not with enough resources to save the Faberge crowd.
Costco sells in bulk (boxes of 5 dozen eggs) to restaurants.
You’re fantasizing about solutions that don’t scale-up.
You’re an idiot, the useful idiot in service of Dr. Fascist.
“No one is eating out.” In the restaurants themselves...but many, many restaurants are still very busy with the curbside service and drive thrus, take out, and delivery through services like Grub Hub, etc...many that never had delivery as a big part of their business before.
And you’re a fool who thinks it’s cheaper to eat in a restaurant than to cook your own food.
Makes double sense as a source of food as well as revenue for the restaurants.
You do realize this makes no sense as a response? You said people could bring their own egg cartons as a simple solution. He asked how many people actually have their own egg cartons, you respond with "what's your point?" That makes zero sense as a response.
I actually do agree with you that these items should be allowed for sale as bulk purchases - there are at least some people who can in fact make this work and they would lower the stress on the supply chain for those who cannot. As mentioned above, one state is now allowing restaurants to make direct sales.
Maybe it got posted in the wrong spot. My comment was directed to whoever thought the food supply chain was going to break down. My idea? Put people back to work.
A case of eggs (30 Doz) is on flats of 2 1/2 dozen per flat, stacked. I think folks would buy cryovac beef of bottom,steamship and top rounds. Also knuckles and rib eyes. I never saw a 5 gallon carton of milk. It would weigh about 45 lbs. I think.
Not enough people to pick & pack orders plus load the trucks. Most warehouses running a 3 shift operation only have half of the scheduled crew show up for work.
People new to working in cold storage quit in the first few days of work.
Trying to get laid-off food service workers to come over and work in the warehouse.
I’m not sure exactly how big institutional milk containers are; they’re not necessarily 5 gallons.
5 gallons would probably weigh about 37 lbs.
But, they’re not jugs; they’re bladders with dispensing hoses that would be exceedingly inconvenient without the matching dispensing cabinet, and also exceedingly inconvenient to store in the refrigerator.
Pay no attention to this guy; he thinks it’s cheaper to eat in restaurants than to cook your own food.
I guess Trump would have to issue an EO? I barely know how this country runs any more. Id have not believed the Bill of Rights could be indefinitely and arbitrarily suspended on us to begin with.
I am glad to see some actions and some lawsuits filed. But if courts are closed and we call no juries I dont understand how anything can be done.
How many people have egg cartons?
If you want eggs from those with chickens, they really appreciated it when you can supply some cartons. We always save ours as we have lots of friends with chickens, but if you are inner city, I guess that would be a different kind of deal. We live on the outskirts of a city of 60 thousand and if you were to include the surrounding fifty miles, probably closer to 100 thousand, so not exactly rural by any means. Chickens are allowed in town, and that is really the important issue.
I’ve got chickens, and probably ~100 empty cartons, but most people, if they don’t have chickens or know anyone who does, toss the carton as soon as it goes empty.
LilFarmer, you may want to check with someone on that. I think the CDC wants current stock for healthcare providers and first responders, etc. But if you have N95s already on hand and the masks haven’t exceeded their shelf life, they still may be usable.
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