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Illinois moves closer to becoming first ‘junk’ state with negative credit outlook
Illinois Policy Institute ^ | April 12, 2020 | Adam Schuster

Posted on 04/12/2020 9:15:37 AM PDT by george76

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To: george76

Maybe they can borrow some money from Puerto Rico.


41 posted on 04/12/2020 10:35:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: dp0622

Wow that’s a very sobering thought.

The rainy day fund would be gone in 15 minutes?

It’s probably too late now, but Illinois and other states needed some financial planning advice long before now. Financial planning is not just needed by us as individuals,
but also by governments.


42 posted on 04/12/2020 10:48:06 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: george76

I have a very good friend who is an Illinois state senator. Extremely conservative. Poor gyy just beats his head against the wall because of the Democrat supermajority. There is nothing he can do but fight the good fight.


43 posted on 04/12/2020 10:50:18 AM PDT by gopno1
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To: usconservative

"Finally, monsieur, a wafer-thin mint."

44 posted on 04/12/2020 10:55:21 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

I am so stealing that picture and using my rather crappy GIMP skills and putting JB Prickster’s face on that.


45 posted on 04/12/2020 11:20:51 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dfwgator

But just keep voting for Democrats, Illinois.
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Lots of DemocRATS looking to the “Phase 4” Coronavirus bill to bail out states such as Illinois and New York. I say HELL NO!


46 posted on 04/12/2020 11:32:42 AM PDT by House Atreides (It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT!)
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To: usconservative

You’re welcome to it. I decided not to use some of the more graphic photos of Mr. Creosote, because it’s around mealtime for a lot of people.


47 posted on 04/12/2020 11:34:19 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: george76
Illinois does NOT have unlimited taxing power. In fact, the state constitution forbids taxing retirement income (social security, 1099 retirement income) and changing the ultra rich pension plans for government employees. And there was just an increase in the state income tax on the productive, so it would be hard even for the dems to raise it again.

Actually, outside of the 6-county metro Chicago area the real estate taxes are reasonable. We live about 7 miles outside the metro area, and our RE tax is about 40% of what it was inside the metro area.

48 posted on 04/12/2020 11:40:37 AM PDT by Bernard ("I don't know if that's true:" Schiff said.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
Yeah, it is Easter Sunday so let's not ruin everyone's dinner.

I opted for a turkey breast for today. Have that in the oven slow cooking. GF is on her way over, I have the mashed potato's all set to go (boil then mash, already peeled) along with green beans almondine, stuffing, a nice salad, bottle of Kendall Jackson Reserve Chardonnay to go along with it and dang it, I forgot to pick up something for dessert. Oh well.

49 posted on 04/12/2020 11:40:42 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Sounds good! I am Orthodox, so I don’t celebrate until next week. Mrs. SCR made a spinach lasagna, which should be ready shortly.


50 posted on 04/12/2020 11:55:16 AM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
My FBI Aunt (Full Blooded Italian) used to make meat and spinach lasagna ... it was to die for! You lucky man!
51 posted on 04/12/2020 11:58:20 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: george76; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican; campaignPete R-CT; NFHale

Lemme guess... Governor Fatso will say it’s Trumps fault.


52 posted on 04/12/2020 12:02:39 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact)
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To: BillyBoy

What else ? It ain’t like Prick Sir knows what the hell he’s doing.


53 posted on 04/12/2020 12:18:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: FLT-bird

“So they will just keep raising taxes and raising taxes until they kill off businesses and then people really flee the state in droves. That will kill property values.”

That has already happened (Lake county), but it will become obvious soon to everyone.


54 posted on 04/12/2020 12:43:36 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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To: kiryandil

My town suspended street cleaning (no parking) but still sends the street cleaner down the middle of the street; I only assume its so people don’t ask why the guys haven’t been furloughed.


55 posted on 04/13/2020 5:56:59 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: george76
But the fat pension checks just keep on rolling.

30,000 Six-Figure Illinois Educators Cost Taxpayers $3.7 Billion

56 posted on 04/15/2020 6:20:26 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: dp0622
I’m surprised NY has an AA+ still. who’s rating these things? :)

The Big Short (2015) - FrontPoint Partners confronts Morgan Stanley Risk Assessors and S&P

57 posted on 04/15/2020 6:25:03 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Lurker

——When my home State finally crashes——

Well, I wonder about that thought.

The article indicated the reserves amount to about only 15 minutes of spending. The state in effect lives from revenue received day to day. If there is no day to day revenue stream or if it is diminished, what will the treasurer do. Borrow for payroll after payroll?

Will banks continue to lend? Is the state too big to crash, to fail?


58 posted on 04/15/2020 6:27:49 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: bert

“If there is no day to day revenue stream or if it is diminished, what will the treasurer do. Borrow for payroll after payroll?”

They’re pretty much doing that now. They sell bonds, which are one step above Junk status now, to fund daily operations. Tax revenues are in the dumpster now and they aren’t going to improve in the near term. Hell they aren’t going to improve in the long term either.

“Will banks continue to lend?”

Banks aren’t that stupid. They broker the bond sales to people who are that stupid.

“Is the state too big to crash, to fail?”

Nope.

L


59 posted on 04/15/2020 6:43:30 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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