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How Do You Lift a Covid-19 Lockdown? Ask Austria, The Country Just Did It
Yahoo News ^ | 04/09/2020 | Lionel Laurent

Posted on 04/09/2020 11:59:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

We are seeing glimmers of light at the end of the tunnel that is the Covid-19 crisis. China, where the pandemic first struck, had its first day with no new deaths to report. Europe’s worst hit countries, Italy and Spain, are recording a slowing of their respective death tolls. And governments are now talking openly about lifting draconian lockdowns that have restricted movement for half of the world’s population, torpedoed economic activity and imposed a global recession. This is a big moment.

The tunnel is a long one, though. The coronavirus outbreak hasn’t spread uniformly, and, in Europe, country-by-country lockdowns have been applied in haphazard ways. For now, only a handful of states are outlining plans to lift restrictions within days.

The most confident public signals aren’t coming from countries with the most heavy-handed measures, such as Italy or Spain, or those taking a more lax stance, like Sweden (which is belatedly getting tougher). They’re coming from Austria and Denmark, which acted early relative to their coronavirus outbreaks and saw their infection rates come under control. Data compiled by Oxford University’s Blavatnik School of Government shows these two countries introduced lockdowns when they had fewer than 1,000 cases and almost no deaths. When France and Spain began theirs, their case count was closer to 10,000 and their death tolls in the hundreds.

If there’s a lesson to heed from the likes of Austria and Denmark — which were themselves following in China, Italy and Israel’s footsteps — it’s twofold. First, as Bank of America’s Ethan Harris put it last week, the least expensive shutdown for one’s economy is a “quick, air-tight” one, rather than one that’s slow and indecisive. And second, ending such a shutdown should be done very, very carefully.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: austria; coronavirus; lockdown

1 posted on 04/09/2020 11:59:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

1 - 2 - 3 - Go!

rwood


2 posted on 04/09/2020 12:00:50 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: SeekAndFind

A big, noisy, not-social-distanced anti-Anthony Fauci protest in front of the White House would likely do it.


3 posted on 04/09/2020 12:01:29 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“A big, noisy, not-social-distanced anti-Anthony Fauci protest in front of the White House would likely do it.”

Do what? Get you thrown in jail?


4 posted on 04/09/2020 12:05:44 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

I think it’s pretty important that anonymous DC bureaucrats start getting the message that they are not immune from blowback.


5 posted on 04/09/2020 12:11:30 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“I think it’s pretty important that anonymous DC bureaucrats start getting the message that they are not immune from blowback.”

Which is a status they currently enjoy. I’d like to see a few of them dragged out of their offices and into the street for some “education”.


6 posted on 04/09/2020 12:16:04 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan

I honestly think Fauci is so deep in the bubble he has absolutely no idea how furious people outside the Beltway are at him. It will no doubt come as a horrible shock to his system.


7 posted on 04/09/2020 12:19:21 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: SeekAndFind
How Do You Lift a Covid-19 Lockdown?
With a...
Miracle [Mature]
8 posted on 04/09/2020 12:20:07 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SeekAndFind

“China, where the pandemic first struck, had its first day with no new deaths to report.”

I have to shake my head at the gullibility of these people making mentions like this about China.


9 posted on 04/09/2020 12:21:02 PM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: SeekAndFind

China, where the pandemic first struck, had its first day with no new deaths to report.
+++++
I stopped reading right there.


10 posted on 04/09/2020 12:31:07 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
...indicates a covid-19 fatality rate of 0.37 percent, information expected to inform government decision-making about lifting restrictions.
German antibody study indicates fatality rate of 0.37 percent

11 posted on 04/09/2020 12:50:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv; NobleFree; Paladin2; aMorePerfectUnion; gas_dr; dp0622; null and void; DoughtyOne; ...
This seems like a perfect place to post today's installation of the proper relative comparison of deaths across the world. Below is today's update with April 8th totals for the US and other countries that started their round of golf on March 26. While the US' time series ends on Day 15 (which is April 8 - and is basis of the order, i.e., I sorted the data by Day 15 values), I am publishing other countries future totals/'golfer's scores' who are on hole 8 while we're at hole 4.

The US' ranking in this group of countries hasn't changed much at all since Day 8. I also want to re-iterate what I said yesterday, that reporting in NYC (and probably elsewhere) suffer from reporting lags.

As noted previously, the 'hands-off' countries like Sweden and the Netherlands are higher (which isn't a good thing) though the US is pretty close to Sweden which hasn't vaporized its service sector. Time will tell if their approach is prudent. And, in line with this article, Austria and Luxembourg have much lower population-adjusted fatalities; while not shown, Norway and her 5MM citizens had about 6M adjusted fatalities a few days ago. At the other end of the spectrum, Spain and the UK continue to look like hell on this adjusted basis. As noted earlier, Europe is on avg about 8 holes, erm, 8 days ahead of the US.

Someone asked me what all this means. I approach this answer the same way I approach the query of comparing gun control in other countries vs the US: ours is a nation of individuals with a strong distrust of authority but a willingness to do the right thing. We tend to go our own way, which works best for us but on a comparative basis may look good or bad (depending upon who gets to define 'good' and 'bad'). In the end, other countries and their homogenized population of obedient peoples may take an approach with lower 'costs.' America with her 329MM individuals may use a more harsh, 'social distancing' approach that seems to have vaporized a good chunk of the economy, but we're also not like the UK, Spain and Belgium.

In the long run, I'm betting on America.

Country Date of Day 1/1,000 population-adjusted deaths Day 11 Day 12 Day 13 Day 14 Day 15 Day 16 Day 17
Andorra 3/21/20 51,000 59,500 63,750 68,000 72,250 76,500 89,250
San Marino 3/3/20 49,079 49,079 49,079 68,711 68,711 107,974 107,974
United Kingdom 3/15/20 15,528 19,326 25,357 34,021 41,018 47,016 59,744
Spain 3/13/20 16,170 19,647 25,518 30,541 35,950 41,855 47,600
Belgium 3/19/20 12,325 14,670 20,160 23,678 28,911 32,686 36,689
West Bank and Gaza 3/25/20 28,167 28,167 28,167 28,167 28,167 - -
France 3/18/20 11,384 12,828 14,887 17,353 19,864 26,521 32,034
Netherlands 3/17/20 10,330 12,086 14,579 16,335 19,640 22,189 25,324
Italy 3/5/20 9,896 11,805 13,692 16,291 18,627 22,057 26,395
Ireland 3/25/20 9,174 10,580 11,651 14,062 15,736 - -
Sweden 3/23/20 9,823 11,417 11,896 12,789 15,213 18,848 21,910
United States 3/25/20 8,407 9,619 10,783 12,722 14,695 - -
Switzerland 3/16/20 7,331 8,866 10,132 11,514 13,779 16,619 18,730
Macedonia 3/24/20 5,819 8,244 8,729 11,153 12,608 14,063 -
Luxembourg 3/17/20 8,052 9,663 11,273 11,810 12,347 15,568 16,105
Denmark 3/22/20 5,886 6,962 7,867 9,112 10,131 10,584 11,489
Portugal 3/23/20 6,702 7,889 8,530 9,460 9,973 11,064 12,186
Germany 3/25/20 5,723 6,278 7,174 7,990 9,310 - -
Austria 3/23/20 5,849 6,219 6,885 7,552 8,144 8,995 10,106
Iran 3/9/20 5,078 5,667 6,154 6,664 7,166 7,649 8,214
Iceland 3/23/20 3,619 3,619 3,619 3,619 5,428 5,428 5,428
Cyprus 3/23/20 3,762 4,139 4,139 3,386 3,386 3,386 3,386

12 posted on 04/09/2020 1:35:59 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because Austria is the size and complexity of the US.


13 posted on 04/09/2020 1:59:23 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: Redwood71

Sure. So everyone from NYAnd NJ can race to your area.


14 posted on 04/09/2020 2:00:18 PM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: DoodleBob

DOODLEBOB!!!!!

Khan!!!!!

I go loopy when I see all these numbers!!!

ADD!!!

Is that ADD?!?!?!

Or is it just the usual crazy me??

I could have looked at it once 15 years ago without freaking out.

old at 51 :(


15 posted on 04/09/2020 2:26:32 PM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: DoodleBob

Thank you, sir.


16 posted on 04/09/2020 4:12:08 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SeekAndFind

Austria said strict rules about masks, social distancing, and the number of people allowed into a store at any one time will remain in place.

So, essentially, their reopening will in several ways be stricter than our shut down.


17 posted on 04/09/2020 4:36:32 PM PDT by oincobx
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To: DoodleBob

Thanks DB.


18 posted on 04/09/2020 5:13:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Kozak

“Sure. So everyone from NYAnd NJ can race to your area.”

They are being stopped and told they will have to go into shelter if they hit the border or they can go back. Either way they are not a threat. And if they are found out of shelter, arrest them and hold them for the two weeks needed or ship them back to New York or New Jersey at their expense. They can hold them.

And I don’t have to worry that much as I am in Washington State where this thing started conus. I won’t get it as I stay home. I have a safe haven.

rwood


19 posted on 04/09/2020 6:54:16 PM PDT by Redwood71
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