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Doctors Puzzle Over COVID-19 Lung Problems
Web MD.com ^ | April 7, 2020 | Brenda Goodman MA

Posted on 04/07/2020 3:08:23 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: LastDayz

You are welcome to come treat these pts with me if you know so much better. By the way you get one mask every 3 days and share gowns. But i’m sure the vast knowledge you all have obtained reading opinions on the internet is superior to my medical school, residency, and 35 years of experience.


61 posted on 04/07/2020 7:23:58 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

Do you still have a link to it?


62 posted on 04/07/2020 7:43:25 PM PDT by Styria
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

“Yep, make that link go viral.”

It’s been ‘viral’ for around three days and yet the consensus among clinical medical specialists and researchers seems to be ‘We don’t buy it”.


63 posted on 04/07/2020 7:46:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: arthurus

See this reply on another thread about that video.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3832703/posts?page=57#57


64 posted on 04/07/2020 7:53:06 PM PDT by upchuck (Democrats are always the problem, never the answer.)
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To: arthurus

What a wonderful catch!


65 posted on 04/07/2020 8:35:17 PM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU)
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To: Styria
The virus doesn't know it's attaching to a red blood cell. It just bumps into a receptor which matches the spike protein and opens up the cell.

And that happens regardless of the type of cell bearing the receptor.

Nobody says the virus is a trained sniper. Think of analogy to sperm.

"We see that internal fertilization is a losing strategy. How many sperm die / get eaten by white blood cells / go down the wrong fallopian tube. And external fertilization is even worse." Therefore, sexual reproduction is an untenable hypothesis.

Seriously, take a step back and think before -- oh, that's right.

NPCs can't do anything but canned responses.

Can you try please?

66 posted on 04/07/2020 9:13:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: steve86

Mainly because it didn’t come from a fellow MD.
These are the same world-beaters who opposed handwashing for surgery and childbirth. And mocked the idea of bacteria causing ulcers. Just like Fiddler on the Roof.
Tradition!


67 posted on 04/07/2020 9:15:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity
...patients with more normal-looking lungs, but low blood oxygen, may also be especially vulnerable to ventilator-associated lung injury, where pressure from the air that’s being forced into the lungs damages the thin air sacs that exchange oxygen with the blood.

Messy disease...

68 posted on 04/07/2020 9:36:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (COVID Community Vulnerability Map: https://covid19.jvion.com/ Disease: tinyurl.com/cvirusmap)
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To: Styria

Try post number 4 in the thread, I think...


69 posted on 04/07/2020 10:20:44 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A law means nothing if it isnÂ’t followed.)
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To: Mom MD

No disparagement intended for the good Dr’s out there: and there are quite a few.

It’s the newer ones that have been “trained” by the establishment to lose their critical thinking skills.

These up and comers can and should be learning from the “old timers” who went through the school of hard knocks (so to speak), not from a bunch of bookworms who have never dirtied their hands.

It’s been my observation over the years that the very talented Dr’s (especially the ones who specialize) are what some people would consider as arrogant and aloof. When they are in actuality, extremely self-confident and focused. These are the ones that I’d want working on me and mine if the need should arise.

The Dr’s that argue over this, that, and the other need to knock off the BS and remember their oath: Do No Harm.


70 posted on 04/07/2020 10:45:54 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve seen other things that indicate that in some cases, at least, this virus is basically a heme burglar, latching onto hemoglobin and rendering it useless for carrying oxygen and CO2, either by destroying it or removing the iron atoms from it.

Chinese Heme Burglar Virus


71 posted on 04/07/2020 10:53:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: grey_whiskers

‘And mocked the idea of bacteria causing ulcers.”

Yeah buddy..... wasn’t that guy an Aussie doc?

Took like 5 years, give or take, before he was vindicated.

Bunch of knuckleheads.... couldn’t stand it that some lowly “peon” had figured it out.


72 posted on 04/07/2020 10:54:03 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: tinyowl

This would suggest to me that if you lived in a region like Denver (high alt city)...you’d be in a serious amount of trouble to survive.


73 posted on 04/08/2020 1:03:15 AM PDT by pepsionice
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This would suggest to me that if you lived in a region like Denver (high alt city)...you’d be in a serious amount of trouble to survive.

I'm definitely not an expert on this stuff, but from what I know of reading of climbers, those people's bodies/systems are acclimated and adapted to those conditions ... so it would all be relative.

That said, I bet if a sea level dweller - say a beginning hiker from New Orleans, caught Corona on a Monday and flew into Denver on Friday for a 3 week camp in the mountains -> that would not be pretty, and would be exactly the situation you're talking about - where they would be doubly screwed. .

74 posted on 04/08/2020 2:22:25 AM PDT by tinyowl
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To: Mom MD

IIRC Ginsberg was on one during her illnesses.


75 posted on 04/08/2020 2:57:46 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like chemical warfare delivered via a bioagent


76 posted on 04/08/2020 5:05:02 AM PDT by silverleaf (Remember kids: You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out!)
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To: LastDayz

These up and comers can and should be learning from the “old timers” who went through the school of hard knocks (so to speak), not from a bunch of bookworms who have never dirtied their hands.


There’s a never-ending arrogance-battle between the inexperienced, and the experienced who never update their skills.

Best case, is an experienced doc who avidly reads up on new events.


77 posted on 04/08/2020 8:56:16 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Kaslin
And don't dismiss the whole 5G thing out of hand; it may be more than a wacky conspiracy theory. Its 60Gh frequency causes oxygen molecules (O2) to become "excited." In this state they're unable to attach and detach normally from hemoglobin, making oxygen delivery very inefficient. So yes, it is a bit like altitude sickness. Oxygen therapy is called for, not a respirator to breathe for the patient. In fact, a respirator can do more harm (to the lungs) than good.
78 posted on 04/08/2020 8:58:20 AM PDT by Blurb2350
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To: Mom MD

there are maybe 1-2 ecmo machines in the largest hospitals most do not have one. The required specialized care by a trained perfusionist ICU nurses do not run these. It is a last ditch effort that is usually less successful than the standard hail mary.


Thanks for those insights.


79 posted on 04/08/2020 8:59:43 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

I’m wondering how many people have low oxygen in their bloodstream to begin with. How many are shallow breathers to begin with.


80 posted on 04/08/2020 9:01:18 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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