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Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret
medium ^ | 5 April 2020 | libertymavenstock

Posted on 04/07/2020 11:33:16 AM PDT by COBOL2Java

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To: COBOL2Java

Interesting concept. I did not notice the credentials of the author.


181 posted on 04/07/2020 8:36:51 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: gas_dr
I believe that perhaps the good thing to come out of this will be a golden age of virology and treatment.

I am totally a layman but I have been thinking that for a couple of weeks. The level of attention given this by all quarters of the government and private sector is really firing up everyone involved in the field of virology.

182 posted on 04/07/2020 8:37:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (MAGA - 16 more years! - KAG)
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To: COBOL2Java

this person is suggesting rbc transfusion and hyperbaric chambers and I posted the same the other night and got repeatedly blasted for suggesting it...


183 posted on 04/07/2020 8:44:23 PM PDT by cherry
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To: COBOL2Java

PFL


184 posted on 04/07/2020 8:45:58 PM PDT by Batman11 ( The USA is not an ATM!)
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To: wastoute

re: Post number 81 posted on 04/07/2020 1:13:13 PM PDT
“And like I said, as the days drag by the lack of clinical evidence forthcoming is making me doubt there IS evidence to find.”

Betting that you are not familiar with the work by French Dr. (and Prof.) Raoult regarding hcq et al.

Also, Chrome translate works on this collection of reports (pages below are in Chinese):

http://clarivate.com.cn/coronavirus-resources/research04.htm

http://rs.yiigle.com/CN112147202003/1184469.htm


185 posted on 04/07/2020 8:59:58 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: wastoute

Also, this collection of research articles maintained by:

COVID-19 Therapeutic and Prevention
Edited by Didier Raoult, Po-Ren Hsueh
Last update 8 April 2020

https://www.sciencedirect.com/journal/international-journal-of-antimicrobial-agents/special-issue/10V3JMBH9GZ


186 posted on 04/07/2020 9:07:17 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: gas_dr

re: “he offered you the journal of Infectious Disease to guide you .... And you are the zinc ionophore slut, you brought it up and THAT IS NOT THE reason that we use hydroxycholorquine.”

Stuck in an old paradigm; there are organizations outside of JoID ...


187 posted on 04/07/2020 9:11:11 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: gas_dr

You’re a gas dr and yet you are pushing the 5G idiocy? Good to know. I’ll tell everyone who asks that dr_gas says it’s the 5G that’s causing all the death and point them to you.


188 posted on 04/07/2020 11:07:18 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: Mom MD

This looks like the ‘six ways from Sunday’ virus. Lot of misinformation and docs in the field are mostly very busy and tired. I don’t figure on a single magic bullet. I remember back around 1995 when docs finally tried three at once meds for HIV, and it actually worked. Expect the same here. Not necessarily three, and likely some complications and contraindications. IOW, medicine as usual, only in a hurry with billions of people watching in real time.

The numbers coming out of New York State the last week don’t look like whatever the docs did there in the last week had the desired effect. Flipside, I’d be interested in hearing from the docs in California, Tennessee and Texas. Much better raw numbers, mostly but not entirely due to population density. Death to case ratio. And avoid whatever France and the U.K. have been doing, which was herd immunity.


189 posted on 04/07/2020 11:22:29 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: gas_dr

I’ve seen material by some Canadian dentists who mention iodine - as in Lugol’s, but not so much in Betadine, as a potent viricide and bactericide. From the tech details, gargling with 25 ppm iodine (Lugol’s cut 1000:1) or applied to a mask or filter (higher concentration, so cut 100:1 to 250:1) seems effective. Lugol’s is 2% iodine and 4% potassium iodide, and 94% distilled water. Safe? Not safe?

I’m not a doctor, and I am not advising anybody on anything.


190 posted on 04/07/2020 11:33:33 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: Norseman

80 cases is one doctor’s result, many in ICU. 78 released as of 14 days out, one in ICU, and one - age 88 - dead. Half released by days 5-6. HCQ. Z-pack, and zinc. He had previously done a non-statistically significant number of people. This was from late March when I first heard, repeated endlessly. Usually the reporting omitted things like numbers.


191 posted on 04/07/2020 11:37:42 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: Texas Eagle; wastoute; null and void; All

The article doesn’t seem to be interested in the “anecdotal” evidence of Dr. Robert Cathcart’s 10 years successful experience with 9000 patients using high Vitamin C doses. That is a lot of anecdotes!! Then there is Dr. Cheng’s early reporting about Vitamin C clinical trials now in progress in China and due for official reporting in Sept.

http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html

https://greenbeltoutdoors.com/blogs/survival-blog/vitamin-c-in-high-doses-is-safe-in-treatment-of-coronavirus-covid-19-dr-richard-cheng


192 posted on 04/07/2020 11:53:31 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gas_dr

If Fe becomes carboxylated or methylated (Carboxyhgb and methemoglobin) it irreversibly binds oxygen


So, in this case, the extra methyls do NOT come off as CO2 - interesting - I didn’t get that far in biochemistry.

Certainly possible - but not close to certain - that the Chinese are holding back useful information on effective vs. ineffective treatment protocols. So hope y’all are sharing clinical findings at internet speed all over the connected world. Even the Chinese.


193 posted on 04/07/2020 11:53:53 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: TigersEye

I’m intrigued but also ignorant. Everything he said seemed plausable at 1st read


194 posted on 04/07/2020 11:56:18 PM PDT by Theophilus (Ich bin ein Hong Konge)
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To: Zhang Fei

That’s worse than any real-life data I have seen elsewhere. It’s also a bigger number (900 in the denominator). My models suggested anywhere from 50% extra mortality to 8x mortality. But only a model, back in late January. Numbers you quote are 6x, and earlier and smaller numbers from Bergamo were 3x other year all cause mortality.


195 posted on 04/08/2020 12:08:46 AM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: malach

“IDK who NBC interviewed but the Dr in suburban NY had an n of 700 patients in a close-packed religious Jewish community with very positive results.”

It was Dr. Vladimir Zelenko.


196 posted on 04/08/2020 12:20:00 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: gas_dr

ad to look up eosinophils. The ‘sino’ part had me thinking Chinese, which it ain’t. That would tie in to shock, then. So many opinions, not enough amateur-accessible helpful information. Although I’m glad that more people are finally following Semmelweis’ advice, after all these years.


197 posted on 04/08/2020 12:24:00 AM PDT by bIlluminati (Defund the Left. Shrink the U.S. Federal government to 1897 levels.)
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To: Mom MD

Now I’m confused about your dismissal of the article.

The “malaria is a bacteria” quote was in reference to others, not the author of the article.


198 posted on 04/08/2020 12:29:28 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

i already addressed that. in a few posts down i listed the other issues Inhad with it. several other physicians on the site have said similar things


199 posted on 04/08/2020 12:50:02 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

>> also many atypical pneumonia’s are bilateral so he is wrong on that front as well

As well? The author clearly stated malaria involves parasites. So the inaccuracy concerning bilateral symptoms would be the “first front”, no?

I’m not debating the article’s medical merits — only pointing to the malaria misread — and, in no way questioning your medical insights.


200 posted on 04/08/2020 12:50:54 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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