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'Going To Get Involved': Trump To Settle Dispute Between Modly And Fired Capt. Crozier
The Washington Examiner ^ | 04/07/20 | Ben Wolfgang

Posted on 04/07/2020 9:04:50 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: RoseofTexas
Let’s face it..TRUMP WILL NEVER EVER DEFEAT THE SWAMP!

I still have hope the Deep State will be abolished in Trump's 2nd term as he will be unleashed without restraint to do what he was elected to do.

That said, it does get challenging at times to maintain a modicum of hope...so hang in there, Rose.

41 posted on 04/07/2020 9:41:22 AM PDT by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" - DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: Sequoyah101
Crosier also allowed liberty in Vietnam during the epidemic

In addition to my question in post #33, how many tested positive for the clap after that liberty?

42 posted on 04/07/2020 9:43:10 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again. Bring back ASA.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“There was no real value in going around trashing the guy. He is fired. It is over.”

Exactly. The entire problem came because Modly thought he needed to justify himself to the swabbies. Ten times better not to run to the crew and explain your command decisions.
The whole damned navy is screwed up right now.

First the drag queens at sea, destroyers with women at the helm ramming everything in sight. A nuclear sub sailor does an active shooter thing, the rebellion of a bunch of snowflake SEALs and their officers, Sec Spencer bucking the clear orders of the commander in Chief.

There is a big problem in the USN and it probably cannot be cured without a WWII experience.

The Chinese must be smiling. Knowing they will soon control the China sea without firing a shot.


43 posted on 04/07/2020 9:43:44 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: semimojo

I see what you did there.


44 posted on 04/07/2020 9:45:00 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Obviously its not over, we’re still talking about it. And now the president is getting involved


45 posted on 04/07/2020 9:46:02 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Enlightened1
During a press conference at the White House, the president praised both men and said he doesn’t want Capt. Crozier’s career to be ruined because of a “bad day.”

Mr. President, if you were intervening on behalf of Adm. Husband Kimmel (look him up), who had a very bad day, I would cheer you on.

But Capt. Crozier violated Navy and DOD protocol (and perhaps even the law) when he divulged information related to the combat effectiveness of his ship and crew via non-secure channels. He made piss-poor decision and ended up making a public spectacle of himself and his crew. I don't give a damn how well liked he was.

There are plenty of other military field-grade or higher officers who have used their positions to become martyrs for the deep state. That lesson should have sunk in when you had to deal with the whole 'whistleblower' fiasco.

Don't be an idiot, Mr. President.

46 posted on 04/07/2020 9:48:18 AM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: semimojo

Common sense.... that crowding together wasn’t it. And anyway, they should have all been turned to, spray bottles in hand on a disinfecting field day.


47 posted on 04/07/2020 9:49:07 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: ASA Vet

I don’t believe that they were performing any pregnancy tests. The more urgent need was to try to save the lives of men and women in uniform during a pandemic.


48 posted on 04/07/2020 9:49:24 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Enlightened1

The president should stay out of this.


49 posted on 04/07/2020 9:50:19 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth)
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To: Enlightened1

It is my opinion that Captain Crozier did all he could. He made Modly aware of the problem and Modly took no immediate action.

I think Captain Crozier made many attempts to get Modly to make a decision, and Modly failed to make the decisions that needed to be made.

Modly claims he had solved the problem and had communicated his plan directly to Crozier. That’s a lie. If Crozier had been told of the plan, Crozier would not have written his letter.

Whether,or not, Crozier had used a classified email system,someone else was going to leak it. As for the number of CCs, I think Crozier was making it clear that he was not going to the fall for incompetence other chain of command, and especially Modly.


50 posted on 04/07/2020 9:52:41 AM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: Zathras

Though Classified is it possible that this Captain was in charge of Nuclear Ordnance?


51 posted on 04/07/2020 9:59:28 AM PDT by Dstorm
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To: Ann Archy
Roger that. Letting the "enemy" know your capabilities are reduced in a public domain? Uh,no. The blank check I signed back in '67 had no exclusion clauses about what might cause my demise in service. Of course circumstances should be mitigated as much as possible. But a panic stricken skipper isn't good.😟😷
52 posted on 04/07/2020 10:02:46 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Enlightened1

The only proper response to that line of inquiry at yesterday’s presser should have been:

“I stand behind the decision of SecNav in these instances.”

Crozier has clearly lost the faith and trust of the commanders above him. He screwed up, bigly. He is paying the price.


53 posted on 04/07/2020 10:03:17 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. Mr Trump, we've got your six.)
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To: Enlightened1

“dispute?” - what dispute. The Secretary relieved the skipper of his command for doing something very stupid. The guy is still in the US Navy and still a Captain. The Captain was wrong and this is the price he pays.


54 posted on 04/07/2020 10:03:52 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Enlightened1

I would fire Modly for speaking to the crew the way he did. He obviously does not understand loyalty “up” and loyalty “down”, and to expect anyone who heard his words to ever respect the chain of command again.

The captain had to go, of course, but there is a right way and a wrong way to do things and Modly obviously does not know the difference.


55 posted on 04/07/2020 10:12:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Ann Archy

Excuse me, Crozier was called “Chopper” and he mastered the nuclear stuff.


56 posted on 04/07/2020 10:14:48 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

+1


57 posted on 04/07/2020 10:16:13 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: DesertRhino

I agree - good to see we have some common ground.


58 posted on 04/07/2020 10:17:18 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Zathras
Mr. Trump did not specify exactly how he’ll get involved or what steps he’ll take to settle the controversy.
President Trump doesn’t know yet "exactly how he’ll get involved or what steps he’ll take to settle the controversy.”

And it probably wouldn’t suit his purposes to divulge that right now if he did know.

I am glad Trump is getting involved.
It makes President Trump look sort of Lincolnesque.

59 posted on 04/07/2020 10:17:22 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Socialism is cynicism directed towards society and - correspondingly - naivete towards government.)
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To: Enterprise
I was thinking along those lines too. It might be the reasoning to reinstate him and save face for everyone.

I have read that he sent copies of this email to 20 people. I have also read that his immediate supervisor, the Admiral to whom he answers directly, was aboard that ship, and the captain appears to have ignored his authority.

60 posted on 04/07/2020 10:19:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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