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Why Some Conservatives and Objective Thinkers Lost the Policy Battle Over COVID-19
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2020 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 04/06/2020 4:11:45 AM PDT by Kaslin

One of the first casualties in the rhetorical war over COVID-19 was our Constitutionally-given right to question the “End of the World” computer model projections, the professors and “experts” creating and pushing those models, and their track records with such models from the past.

Myself and a number of others have been lit-up – or censored -- by some on the left for daring to simply question the accuracy of computer models which have upended civilization and given birth to draconian measures and rule.

Draconian measures and rule which did slam down like an iron curtain. Just two weeks after Imperial College in London first put out its computer model predicting upwards of 500,000 dead in the United Kingdom and 2,200,000 in the United States (which they have adjusted and dialed back at least twice as more factual information came in), Americans were being threatened with fines, arrest, and even imprisonment if they disobeyed the edicts of those draconian measures.

Two weeks.

Not in North Korea, Iran, or the People’s Republic of China where COVID-19 did originate, but right here in the United States of America.

Tens of millions of Americans were rightfully horrified by the swiftness of these seemingly totalitarian actions. But, more frighteningly, countless other Americans seemed to strongly support such punishing measures against their fellow citizens.

Including, informing on them.

Another casualty being telling simple truths. Most especially if those truths reflect poorly upon those who have gained an unfair and unethical advantage in the domination of the square of public and global opinion.

A domination obtained in large-part through blatant, pervasive, and illegal discrimination employed by the left over the last several decades against conservatives, libertarians, moderates, and people of faith. Because of that discrimination, liberals have long had a strangle-hold on the three major megaphones of our nation.

Those megaphones being the media, academia, and entertainment.

Unfortunately, as multitudes of conservative, libertarian, moderate, and even faith-based doctors and scientists will tell you, for the last two decades or more, that discrimination has also transformed much of science and medicine into one-party or one-ideology “group-think.”

Often, at the expense of not only the careers of highly talented and dedicated doctors and scientists, but at the expense of worthwhile theories and options.

That reality stated, when in the United States, as well as many nations around the world, liberal group-think does in-fact dominate the media, academia, science, medicine, and entertainment, then the scales of reasoned thought and honest debate are upended. By omission or commission, those wielding that massive and often unchecked power can, and do, ignore, belittle, or crush any dissenting opinion.

With regard to COVID-19, instead of now vigorously and openly discussing all the options between “lockdown” to “Herd Immunity” – which, until reason went out the window, was always one of the most effective protocols and strategies used against these pandemics – we are suffering from “Herd Resistance” from those shouting down or even threatening anyone daring to question the draconian policies of “Lockdowns” and “Social Distancing” as mandated by the Orwellian “Big-Brother is watching you” computer models.

Except, I have spoken to a number of doctors over the last few weeks who do believe those computer models are flawed and strongly oppose the current lockdown policy. They believe that there is a very good chance the virus is much more widespread than many believe, and therefore, impacts the “doom and gloom” projections of the models. For that reason and more, they believe other options should and must be tried. Options which do include staggering out the workforce as fast as possible with the young and healthy first in line so the nation and the world can get the protection of that “Herd Immunity.”

Unfortunately, these same doctors know they are in the minority – at the moment -- and that many of their colleagues who do agree with them have been forced into silence out of fear for their careers and the welfare of their own families.

nflexible group-think dominating the media, academia, science, medicine, and entertainment will always be wrong and often, quite dangerous. While it is indeed liberal “group-think” which dominates these fields now, it would be just as wrong and just as dangerous if it were conservative “group think.”

No side has every answer. No person, political Party, or ideology is infallible. No group or ideology should ever be given domain over the freedoms and lives of another. We all grow, sustain ourselves, and indeed, survive precisely by keeping our minds and hearts open to any idea or any person who may have a better answer or solution.

For the moment, the dye has been cast on the collective “solution” to fighting and stopping COVID-19. The “group-think” of worshipping – and defending at all costs -- the computer models has won with conservative and objective thinking pushed to the side.

However, as this pandemic crisis plays out to its increasingly tragic conclusions, -- and as more and more of those models are proven false --how do some continue to justify sacrificing and destroying the financial, mental, and physical well-being of the 99 percent to maybe protect and save the one percent?

Tens of millions of scared and exponentially suffering Americans – as well as billions of people in the same state around the world -- are desperate for a non-computer generated explanation.


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1 posted on 04/06/2020 4:11:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It was lost when a personal friend of Trump got sick with the Wuhan Flu.


2 posted on 04/06/2020 4:13:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No when they found out it was a bio-warfare pathogen and then they had to go through all of this crap.


3 posted on 04/06/2020 4:20:02 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: Kaslin

The words “Global Warming” explain everything.

Empirical science has become the hammer of totalitarianism,


4 posted on 04/06/2020 4:21:22 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
It was lost when more than two-thirds of the alleged “freedom-loving, patriotic conservatives” right here on FR exposed themselves as nanny-state frauds.
5 posted on 04/06/2020 4:23:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: DarthVader

Someone in our Federal government knows something. Other wise there would not have been this much chaos. The Swine flu epidemic was very bad, but it did not cause this mess that we are experiencing.


6 posted on 04/06/2020 4:24:18 AM PDT by MGunny ( Al)
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To: Kaslin
Tens of millions of Americans were rightfully horrified by the swiftness of these seemingly totalitarian actions.

Unfortunately, this is only the beginning. Much worse, I fear, is coming upon the world.

The Antichrist kingdom is being constructed, right now.

Bible prophecy will come true. When that happens is only for us to guess. But just as Christ chastised the Scribes and Pharisees for not being able to read the signs of the times, the signs of the times are presently all around us.


7 posted on 04/06/2020 4:27:46 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Kaslin

It is abundantly clear the models are way way off... this nonsense has to end. The nothion thr entire nation should be locked down because the nyc corridore might get overwhelmed is ridiculous.


8 posted on 04/06/2020 4:29:26 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: MGunny

I think it’s the opposite. The initial instincts of people like President Trump were correct, when they said this was likely to be comparable to a bad flu season. But they were forced to treat this like a pandemic of Biblical proportions for two reasons: (1) the pathetic, infantile panic and hysteria of most Americans; and (2) the disproportionate impact on major media centers like New York City.


9 posted on 04/06/2020 4:30:20 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: Alberta's Child
It was lost when more than two-thirds of the alleged “freedom-loving, patriotic conservatives” right here on FR exposed themselves as nanny-state frauds.

Morning Alberta.

I somewhat disagree. I followed many of those threads. Yes, there were some people that seemed to follow the media narrative on COVID.

But others simply offered their opinions that things were coming, such as shortages of some foods and supplies, state lockdowns, and further economic hardship (and this was well before those things actually came to pass).

For that, some other Freepers went ape on them.

Some threads turned into pointless bickering, instead of debate.

Personally, I suspect that was because some Freepers were either angry or frustrated (perhaps both) when the markets wiped out stock value and 401Ks. Well, join the club. But attacking Freepers who gave advice on prepping helped no one. The stocks were going to lose their value anyway no matter what was said here.

10 posted on 04/06/2020 4:32:57 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: MGunny

You are right and lots of people who are in the NS circle know. Many, many CBRNE SMEs see it clearly. These precautions are DOD SOP for a bio-warfare attack. If you were in the Corps which I take from your handle you trained for this and see it.


11 posted on 04/06/2020 4:36:11 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: SkyPilot

Advice on prepping was never a problem. I’m talking about FReepers who are retired — most likely on GOVERNMENT pensions — telling other hard-working FReepers (many of us self-employed) that we should be arrested for daring to go to work.


12 posted on 04/06/2020 4:41:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.")
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To: HamiltonJay

If you look at the models and the data driving them, you would come to the conclusion that these models don’t differ much from witch doctoring. Sadly, the people who build and run these models know that and hype the results anyway.


13 posted on 04/06/2020 4:43:43 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: Kaslin

The weather channel is amazingly accurate with their rain forcaast.
Most of time.
They get it right within minutes.
Most times.
The weekly forecast is fairly accurate,too.
Especially, if today is monday and they are telling you it will rain tomorrow or the next day.
They are right about 70% of the time.
But there are plenty of times they were way wrong only several days out.
And the 10 day weather forecast forget it.
I could take a wild guess and probably be more accurate.
So, it is with computer models.
Which are wholly dependent on whatever information you feed it.
And there are way to many variable that can change..which will radically change the outcome.
IOW Computer modelling is about as useful as most political polls.


14 posted on 04/06/2020 4:46:09 AM PDT by Leep (It's another day in stir.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

An alternative thought is that the battle was lost when our country walked away from God. The great English writer GK Chesterton said the following:

“When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything.”


15 posted on 04/06/2020 4:46:33 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: SkyPilot

Yeah. We’re in free fall right now. Just waiting to hit the bottom. It’s gonna do damage to our liberties.


16 posted on 04/06/2020 4:50:59 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: Kaslin

Give it up. Now they’re crediting heart disease to the virus. (Is there nothing this virus can’t do?)


17 posted on 04/06/2020 5:01:21 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Kaslin

Panic would have caused people to stay home anyways. I have clients in construction and they have to stop work because a few key managers refuse to show up,


18 posted on 04/06/2020 5:07:40 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Alberta's Child

No Truer Statement !!!

Totally harassed on Flubros thread by the Chicken Littles


19 posted on 04/06/2020 5:17:48 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: Alberta's Child

And, I might add, the frenzied hype of the MSM.


20 posted on 04/06/2020 5:19:34 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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