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An Orthodox Jew and a Messianic Jew Denounce ‘Christian’ Anti-Semitism
Townhall.com ^ | April 5, 2020 | Jonathan Feldstein

Posted on 04/05/2020 8:44:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: amorphous
It surprises me how little real knowledge of scripture many of today's Jews have

Jews have no reason to read Christian scripture, as they have no reason to read Hindu, Buddhist, Muzzie, Zoroastrian, or any scripture other than the Torah. The Torah is essential to Judaism and without it, there is no Judaism. Thus, Jews reading up and taking care to follow the precepts of their own religion, and leaving the reading up on other religions' texts to adherents of those religions is normal and desirable. To follow the highly complicated precepts of authentic Judaism is a lifelong study, without diverting time for reading up on things which do not concern you.

41 posted on 04/05/2020 11:08:43 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
To follow the highly complicated precepts of authentic Judaism is a lifelong study, without diverting time for reading up on things which do not concern you.

A great example of what I'm talking about. One cannot follow something they know so little about, much less make weighty statements about something they know practically nothing about.

42 posted on 04/05/2020 11:19:53 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: EinNYC

The article was authored by TWO people. One a Orthodox Jew, the other not.


43 posted on 04/05/2020 11:29:50 AM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: amorphous
It surprises me how little real knowledge of scripture many of today's Jews have

Jews have no reason to read Christian scripture, as they have no reason to read Hindu, Buddhist, Muzzie, Zoroastrian, or any scripture other than the Torah. The Torah is essential to Judaism and without it, there is no Judaism. Thus, Jews reading up and taking care to follow the precepts of their own religion, and leaving the reading up on other religions' texts to adherents of those religions is normal and desirable. To follow the highly complicated precepts of authentic Judaism is a lifelong study, without diverting time for reading up on things which do not concern you.

44 posted on 04/05/2020 11:31:36 AM PDT by EinNYC
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A fair amount of Christian scripture is Jewish scripture as well. You speak for the observant, the orthodox. The majority are outside of this and have minimal to no understanding or are even hostile to it in the instance of atheist cultural Jews. This is little different from the majority “Christian” identifying public in this country, the majority of whom have little understanding and do not attend church. I’ll suggest that believing Christians are not even close to being a threat to Jews. It’s atheists and Muslims who are.


45 posted on 04/05/2020 11:51:29 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: EinNYC
Unless your double post was an accident, posting the same thing twice, or even n times, doesn't make you points any more worthwhile.

Jews have no reason to read Christian scripture...

Taken generally, this statement, if applicable, makes everything "Jews" say about Christ's teachings null and void, as admittedly they know not what Yeshua taught - nor what Mosses taught in Deuteronomy, The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him.

46 posted on 04/05/2020 11:51:54 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: EinNYC
BOGUS!! You cannot be an Orthodox Jew AND a "messianic jew".

The article is by two different people, one Orthodox and one messianic.

47 posted on 04/05/2020 2:00:20 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: EinNYC

I thought the title referred to two Jews.


48 posted on 04/05/2020 4:28:38 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Kaslin

Matthew 21:1-9 New International Version (NIV)

As they approached Jerusalem and came to Bethphage on the Mount of Olives, Jesus sent two disciples, saying to them, “Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find a donkey tied there, with her colt by  her. Untie them and bring them to me. If anyone says anything to you, say that the Lord needs them, and he will send them right away.”

This took place to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet:   

“Say to Daughter Zion,
    ‘See, your king comes to you,
gentle and riding on a donkey,
    and on a colt, the foal of a donkey.’”[a]


49 posted on 04/05/2020 5:56:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: EinNYC; teppe
The Christian religions have G-d and J.C.

Just like Mormons...


50 posted on 04/05/2020 6:01:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

Rick Wiles is a putz - I don’t know who he is, but he is a putz.

All the data out of those affected show that the virus is NOT limited to any religion or race. It kills Muslims, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists etc. with no discrimination


51 posted on 04/06/2020 1:42:29 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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The Christian religions have G-d and J.C.

I'm going to guess you aren't Christian

Christianity holds that there is only one G-d that we worship. Jesus is not a separate God. Jesus is the "emanation" or embodiment of the ineffable God in this material world. To a Christian this is summed up as "In the beginning was The Word, Jesus Christ. The Word was with God and the Word WAS/IS God" - not "a" god but God

So Jesus, the Father and the Holy Spirit are not three separate Gods but the One God.

52 posted on 04/06/2020 1:46:39 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: EinNYC
Actual Jews (not Messyonics, who are cult members) recite prayers every single day declaring that there is only one G-d that they worship.

Easily 2/3rds of the Christian world recites a creed that begins "I believe in one G-d ...". We aren't polytheists any more than you are.

53 posted on 04/06/2020 7:22:45 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: EinNYC
BTW, what about the article is "total baloney"? Maybe you could give us some choice quotes. Are you sticking up for the anti-semitic "Christian pastor," Rick Wiles, whom the article is attacking? You don't sound like someone who would stick up for anti-semites.

Maybe the simpler explanation is that you denounced the article without even reading it, simply because the title had the words "messianic Jew" in it.

54 posted on 04/06/2020 7:25:07 AM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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“True, 98% of Orthodox Jews are anti-Christian.”

Utter nonsense, unless you mean Orthodoc Jewish people have theological differences.

Maimondes, quite correctly, taught that the religion was perfectly acceptable Noahdic religion for non-Jewish people, and, indeed, quite good, in that it accepts, as truth, the entirety of the Tanakh.

Now, yes, the Satmar and NKs often teach hate, but, candidly, they hate everyone, including other Orthodox Jewish people. They particularly despise me, as an Orthodox believer in Zionism.


55 posted on 04/06/2020 7:57:47 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: EinNYC
BOGUS!! You cannot be an Orthodox Jew AND a "messianic jew". They are diametrically opposed.

They're two different people. Feldstein is the Orthodox Jew, Michael Brown is the "messianic Jew."

56 posted on 04/06/2020 8:01:22 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Modernism began two thousand years ago.)
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Utter nonsense, unless you mean Orthodoc Jewish people have theological differences.

Of course, anti, as in against, or opposed to.

I'm not implying a large percentage of Jews "hate" Christians. A small majority do of course, just as Christians also have a small percentage of those types in our midst.

Look at the context, to which I replied to the OP:

BOGUS!! You cannot be an Orthodox Jew AND a "messianic jew".

If someone harbor's hate (i.e., your Satmar and NKs example) for a Judeo-Christian brother or sister, because of their beliefs, are they really truly either?

57 posted on 04/06/2020 8:38:35 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous
A small majority m i n o r i t y do of course...
58 posted on 04/06/2020 1:31:08 PM PDT by amorphous
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