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An Orthodox Jew and a Messianic Jew Denounce ‘Christian’ Anti-Semitism
Townhall.com ^ | April 5, 2020 | Jonathan Feldstein

Posted on 04/05/2020 8:44:51 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

OK, OK, OK. I hereby denounce Rock Wiles. But where do they FIND such unappetizing, unheard-of pangolins?


21 posted on 04/05/2020 9:11:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints.)
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To: EinNYC
“BOGUS!! You cannot be an Orthodox Jew AND a "messianic jew”

The article has two authors. One is an Orthodox Jew, the other a Messianic Jew. Michael Brown is a Messiaic Jew who is also Pentecostal I believe.

22 posted on 04/05/2020 9:12:14 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: cherry

And if you call them on it you’re anti Semite


23 posted on 04/05/2020 9:14:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: Kaslin
I assume that this clown's claim is based that “Patient Zero” in NYC and vicinity was a lawyer connected to a synagogue in Westchester County (New Rochelle,IIRC).It's just as stupid to blame this on Jews as it is to blame it on Asian Americans,which is happening.
24 posted on 04/05/2020 9:18:46 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: EinNYC

“This article is total baloney.”

You’re as confused as the article’s author and perhaps as bigoted as the man he writes about.


25 posted on 04/05/2020 9:19:52 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: EinNYC
They are diametrically opposed. Orthodox Jews accept the Torah and its commentaries as their only religious input. Messyonics (sic) believe that you can be a Jew AND believe in J.C. (sic) Actual Jews (not Messyonics (sic), who are cult members) recite prayers every single day declaring that there is only one G-d that they worship. The Christian religions have G-d and J.C. (sic).

It seems to me that one can be a Jew and believe in Jesus as the Messiah and one's personal savior. All of the writers of the Brit Chadashah (New Testament) were Jewish. Most of the first Christians were Jews, and that remained the case for decades following the crucifixion of Jesus. There are several Messianic Jewish synagogues in my area.

26 posted on 04/05/2020 9:19:57 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

I don’t think Luke was a Jew.


27 posted on 04/05/2020 9:22:28 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: EinNYC

Ibtz


28 posted on 04/05/2020 9:23:40 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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To: Mom MD

He is a hate filled bigot, pray he finds the truth of Yeshua.


29 posted on 04/05/2020 9:25:02 AM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy Up)
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30 posted on 04/05/2020 9:25:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: gibsonguy

That’s because you dont hang out with the anti semitic fools that claim to be Christians but show by their actions they never knew Christ.

For some reason they love microphones though.

They also cannot comprehend Roman’s 10 and 11, or have never read it.


31 posted on 04/05/2020 9:43:00 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Christian’s are their only friends, but many wear the label on an empty suit.


32 posted on 04/05/2020 9:45:20 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Kaslin

I have never before heard of this man. He sounds like he is a bit crazy.


33 posted on 04/05/2020 9:50:19 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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I take issue with the headline, the entire article is about Rick Wiles who in no way speaks for Christians. He seems to be more of a media person, formerly with MSNBC, CNN, Christian Broadcasting and Trinity Broadcasting, there's not much in his few bios to suggest any religious training or affiliation with recognized Christian denominations. He's the Pastor of a church in Florida, runs a successful website, and has been credentialed by the White House. Which doesn't make him a spokesman for Christians.

34 posted on 04/05/2020 9:55:02 AM PDT by SJackson (blow in a dogÂ’s face, he gets mad at you, car ride; he sticks his head out the window)
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To: Mom MD
One can indeed be a Christ worshipping Jew. Almost all early Christians were>

"One can", which is not the same thing as "one MUST"

St. Paul respected Jews even as he rejected the Judaizers.

35 posted on 04/05/2020 9:57:12 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

As I respect Jews. I did not say one must. I was answering a post that stated one could not be a Jew and a Christ worshipper. I disagree


36 posted on 04/05/2020 9:59:11 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: gibsonguy

Correct. But plenty of the reverse is out there.


37 posted on 04/05/2020 10:07:58 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Well, the Nazarenes I’ve met in Israel were always very nice and good people. I used to work as a tour guide in Arab-controlled areas and got to know them well.

Generally speaking, Israel likes them.

The exception are the Satmars (also in Lakewood NJ) and NKs, both groups hate all other Jews.


38 posted on 04/05/2020 10:33:12 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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39 posted on 04/05/2020 10:37:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: EinNYC
BOGUS!! You cannot be an Orthodox Jew AND a "messianic jew".

True, 98% of Orthodox Jews are anti-Christian.

The term Messianic Jew (you forgot to capitalize - some bias there perhaps) is self explanatory.

Orthodox Jews accept the Torah and its commentaries as their only religious input.

False. Like all religions, Judaism has become corrupted. In its case, supplemented by oral teachings. If only Orthodox Jews omitted the leaven and did follow the Torah to the letter.

Messyonics believe that you can be a Jew AND believe in J.C. Actual Jews (not Messyonics, who are cult members) recite prayers every single day declaring that there is only one G-d that they worship. The Christian religions have G-d and J.C.

Yeshua is the son of God. Some Christian religions (maybe most) attempt to make them one in the same to get around the above. A literal reading of the scriptures lays is out perfectly.

This article is total baloney.

No, it's not "total" baloney. As someone who once supported Wiles, I do denounce Wiles for reducing Jewish/Christian religious differences to emotional, sometimes outrageous, soundbites. Wile's knowledge of the Bible is superficial. After I realized this, I pretty much stopped listening to him.

If Wiles said this, then Wiles is failing to follow Christ's first command to love one another.

Protestant Christians need more pastors who align their message in the style of Billy Graham and not Rick Wiles. And Catholics, what's with Pope Francis?

Not directed at you, but It surprises me how little real knowledge of scripture many of today's Jews have - just my observation - and I can say the same about many of today's Christians.

40 posted on 04/05/2020 10:59:17 AM PDT by amorphous
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