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The CDC Doctors Screwed Up Bigly! USNS Comfort in NY Harbor Sits Idle With 3 Patients -- USNS Mercy in LA has Only 15 Patients
GP ^ | 04/02/20 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 04/03/2020 10:05:11 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: Enlightened1

What vital function were the hospital ships filling before they were sent to New York and LA?

Any idiot can take fragmentary and partial information about a subject he does not understand and is no way qualified to opine about, and take pot shots at the people actually doing the work.

People need to understand that this is a crisis of an unprecedented kind. There are a lot of deluded morons out there who seem to think that there is a pool of geniuses out there who could instantly make all the right decisions if only the people actually DEALING with the crisis would just put them in charge.

There aren’t. They don’t exist. There are no experts. There are people who have ideas that might work, and people who have ideas that won’t work, but there is NOBODY who has the whole thing figured out. Not yet.

The geniuses who have the whole thing figured out are being made right now, and they are going to come from the pool of people who are actually out there TRYING things. BECAUSE they are trying things.

The way you get a handle on this thing, is you go out and try a whole bunch of different approaches, and when one gives good results, you REINFORCE SUCCESS.

Look at World War II. ALL the experts KNEW that there was no defense against being bombed by aircraft. The Bomber Will Always Get Through. Nothing could stop it. Every expert knew this. Only idiots doubted it. Until people actually had to try to stop the Bomber. Then they figured out a way to stop the Bomber.

They tried a whole bunch of things. Some worked a little. Some worked sometimes. Eventually they figured it out.

Handwringers are useless.


41 posted on 04/03/2020 10:31:20 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Enlightened1

That’s nothing. The CDC has caused us to shutdown the people’s jobs and livelihoods.


42 posted on 04/03/2020 10:31:45 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: ronbivtx

B.S.!!!

The W.H.O. did not do the calculation correct. All they did was take those tested, and then looked at who died. They never factored in the all the people that had it, healed from it and never were tested.

Remember the time frame of this. China first notified President Trump of it back in November of 2019. This was after they had worked on it for a few months and could not contain it. So this highly contagious air born virus was around for 6 months, and Chinese citizens were traveling around the planet. Yet no one new about it and everything was normal. Does that not strike you as odd if it is that deadly?

Keep in mind 4 weeks ago there were saying 12 million dead, then 6 million, then 1 million, then 500k and now it is down to 100k-200k. So the model changes drastically because their computer models are incorrect. Bad input gives you bad output.

The projections for climate change have been wrong. The projections for who is going to win the 2016 election was wrong. Computer models can say anything. Again bad input gives you bad output.

When the CDC calculates the death rate for the seasonal flu. They added 36 million people to their numbers. Because many will get mild symptoms, heal from it, and they are never tested. If the CDC did not do this, then the seasonal flu would have a death rate of 10%


43 posted on 04/03/2020 10:32:27 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: PeteB570
They only take non Corona patients - and the Docs have to be sure they don’t have it before the Docs let them on

New York City is by far the epicenter of coronavirus in the US and one of the highest concentrations on the entire planet, and they have only 3 patients in a 1,000 bed hospital ship?
Didn't they announce cancellations of “non essential” procedures in New York, and haven't the media been screaming about hospitals running out of bed? Yet a fully equipped military hospital bed site empty in New York? Give me a break!

44 posted on 04/03/2020 10:33:07 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Bell Bouy II

Well said!


45 posted on 04/03/2020 10:33:18 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Enlightened1

These high priced people are less accurate than the weatherman!


46 posted on 04/03/2020 10:33:48 AM PDT by eeriegeno
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
In other words, correct ones, the Demogogic Party has governors in NY and in CA, and they're refusing to use the facilities offered.

47 posted on 04/03/2020 10:34:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Enlightened1

A couple of days ago, a report appeared that EMP in NYC were told to not take some cardiac arrest victims to the hospitals. Maybe they could take them to the floating hospital in the harbor?


48 posted on 04/03/2020 10:35:15 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

My county in SW Fl doubled case load in 24 hrs


49 posted on 04/03/2020 10:36:17 AM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: ronbivtx
So much misinformation here.

Yes. From paid shills like you, out to create mass hysteria and panic.

As the Imperial College guy explained, the model wasn’t off.

The model WAS off. By a massive TWENTY FIVE TIMES for the numbers of UK deaths.

50 posted on 04/03/2020 10:39:05 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Someone should tell de Blasphemy that Samaritans weren't Christian.
51 posted on 04/03/2020 10:40:58 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: txrefugee

“How many in those 2500 beds in the Javits Center?”

It’s still being decontaminated from 2016.


52 posted on 04/03/2020 10:41:40 AM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

They almost got you?


53 posted on 04/03/2020 10:41:59 AM PDT by JohnnyP (Thinking is hard work (I stole that from Rush).)
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To: unixfox
It aint over yet. What crap.

Do you think that ship is going to be anywhere near full in a couple of weeks?

54 posted on 04/03/2020 10:42:05 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
The Samaritan's Purse field hospital is subject to an unofficial boycott led by Mayor de Blasio because he says the hospital is "Christian"

They've also been pretty rude to all of those atheist volunteers who came pouring in from outside of the city and exposed themselves to this virus to set up hospitals as well.


Wait, you mean there are no such groups?

55 posted on 04/03/2020 10:42:55 AM PDT by Captain Walker
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To: Enlightened1

Maybe they should sail the ships up and down the city streets looking for patients /s


56 posted on 04/03/2020 10:43:05 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Ceebass

“I heard some NYC MD say that there is still plenty of capacity in most NYC hospitals. It’s the ones in certain neighborhoods that are overwhelmed.”

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NYC cases by zip code =>
https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/covid-nyc

Zip code 11370 has a rate 146% higher than the rest of the city. Riker’s Island is in this zip code.


57 posted on 04/03/2020 10:44:05 AM PDT by Ken H (Best SOTU ever!)
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To: unixfox
You got that right. It is still early. The University of Washington's estimate of State peak covid-19 puts New York's peak use of resources on April 9 and peak deaths on April 10. Cuomo shared recent projections from McKinsey and Company, which suggest that apex could come at the end of April.

Models differ based on assumptions. Exponential curves ramp up quickly. Remember the quote from the statistician George Box: All models are wrong but some are useful. In this case we won't know which models are best until it is over. That's why people say, “Plan for the worst and hope for the best.” Because when the fecal material hits the fan, it is too late...

58 posted on 04/03/2020 10:44:35 AM PDT by RetiredScientist
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To: Enlightened1

Meanwhile, the towering communiet puke mayor forbids transport and subsequent treatment of cardiac arrest patients.


59 posted on 04/03/2020 10:44:42 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ronbivtx
If the suggested measures weren’t taken, then the original numbers would apply.

Groan!
Go back in history to the bubonic plague, the great plague in London in 1665/1666 to any pandemic spread by human to human contact and in every single case, people have self isolated, moved out of town or taken steps to avoind contact with those infected.
Why the heck would a self proclaimed Epidemiologist from Imperial Collage in London of all places, which went through the great plagues, assume that people would behave any differently this time even without government intervention?

60 posted on 04/03/2020 10:44:57 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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