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EMS crews won’t take flatlining cardiac patients to hospital under new NYC coronavirus rules
NY Daily News ^ | April 2, 2020 | THOMAS TRACY

Posted on 04/03/2020 6:59:05 AM PDT by BlackAdderess

Cardiac patients who flatline will not be taken to area hospitals for further care, according to a new directive handed down as the city battles the rise in coronavirus cases.

The new orders from the Regional Emergency Medical Services Council of New York City say that “no adult non-traumatic or blunt traumatic cardiac arrest is to be transported to a hospital with manual or mechanical compressions in progress" unless the person’s heart restarts at the scene.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: comfort; covid19
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Democrats are complaining that the hospital ship is being horribly under-utilized, yet they have mandated that heart patients are supposed to die rather than being transported to the hospital. So why not transport to the hospital ship that was placed in the harbor for the purpose of handling non-covid patients?
1 posted on 04/03/2020 6:59:05 AM PDT by BlackAdderess
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To: BlackAdderess

These people are foisting “survival of the fittest” mentality upon the public.


2 posted on 04/03/2020 7:02:10 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 32:12))
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The Left's ultimate fantasy....culling the herd.

You'd think with all the talk of overpopulation the Left does they'd be thrilled with this virus...or any virus for that matter.

3 posted on 04/03/2020 7:04:45 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: stars & stripes forever

I’ve been getting palpitations lately.

Doing more running around than usual for mother and two old aunts.

I better splice 2 wires from the speakers in case i need a quick jolt.


4 posted on 04/03/2020 7:06:06 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: BlackAdderess

Liberal “compassion” on display.


5 posted on 04/03/2020 7:07:46 AM PDT by libertylover (Socialism will always look good to those who think they can get something for nothing.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Nope. Survival of the fittest makes evolutionary sense.

The left is finally getting its fondest wish—getting to decide who lives and dies.


6 posted on 04/03/2020 7:10:44 AM PDT by jazminerose (Why do democrats hate black people?)
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To: BlackAdderess

NBC ‘covered’ this yesterday. The real story was in the last paragraph which cited the FDNY. The directive is certainly not as the headline states.

The headline is way off. Please don’t judge this article without reading it.


7 posted on 04/03/2020 7:12:12 AM PDT by stanne
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De facto death panel. When government controls healthcare they decide who lives and who dies.


8 posted on 04/03/2020 7:12:58 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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I have a buddy that was a firefighter.

He told of how they would get to a heart-attack scene and start CPR.

“If we got there and nobody had been doing CPR, it was pretty much a moot point. Most of the time they were already cold. We would do CPR and load them into the aid car when it came. Mostly just so we didn’t have to tell the spouse that they were already dead when we got there.”


9 posted on 04/03/2020 7:13:17 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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Can we wall off NYC? Isn't that movie with kurt russel prophetic?

NYC is the drunken, stupid, abusive, smelly cousin we don't let into the house. Keep him in the barn.

10 posted on 04/03/2020 7:14:30 AM PDT by LouAvul ("Little by little, the look of the country changes because of the men we admire.")
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I was thinking the same. The RATS are culling the herd.

A lot of evil is behind this. I do not think we can imagine how bad it is.


11 posted on 04/03/2020 7:18:08 AM PDT by dforest (Just shut up Obama. Maybe everyone should just shut up. Particularly Mutt Romney)
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12 posted on 04/03/2020 7:18:45 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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This was posted on another thread. Basically if a patient in cardiac arrest (not the same as a heart attack) is not revived in the field and has obvious signs of death, they will not be brought to the hospital. Instead paramedics will call for the body (dead body) to be removed by the police or the ME.


13 posted on 04/03/2020 7:19:55 AM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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Correct. This doesn’t change anything except the optics. Once flatlined, it’s over. CPR is for vfib until they can paddle you back to normal rhythm.

All they are doing by shocking a flatline heart is cooking it a little.


14 posted on 04/03/2020 7:19:55 AM PDT by okkev68
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BlackAdderess, meet the Black Adder


15 posted on 04/03/2020 7:20:50 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: LouAvul

That is not a fair statement. There are plenty of good people in NYC. I was born and raised here. Not all New Yorkers are as you describe. Please don’t generalize us. I could say that all southerners are a bunch of redneck, racist, illiterate, and inbred yahoos. But I don’t because I don’t generalize.

I know of a distant family member who died of COVID-19, and six other people who are sick. One of them is now on a ventilator in ICU with a poor prognosis.

This Chinese virus was intentional. The anger and blame needs to go there.


16 posted on 04/03/2020 7:21:32 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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17 posted on 04/03/2020 7:21:40 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Out of hospital cardiac arrest patients have an approximate 10% probability of functional return, even if they survive, most, would have have not been able to tend to their own knitting. This is a triage situation.


18 posted on 04/03/2020 7:24:13 AM PDT by HangnJudge (China Lied, People died, Never Forget, this Decade's 9-11)
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This is a big nothing. If EMS cannot restore circulation in 20 minutes in the field you are dead. No reason to transport to a hospital. The only benefit of this whole fiasco is maybe we will get rid of some antiquated processes that mean nothing


19 posted on 04/03/2020 7:25:36 AM PDT by Mom MD
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This was the theme of the thread yesterday. ‘Let’s judge all of New York on one media bias headline’

Freepers would not judge any situation on a mainstream media headline without scrolling down to the last two paragraphs but when it comes to piling on against New York let’s hate.

It is not flatlining patients who are not to be brought to the ER. It is people who have been treated with CPR for twenty minutes then pronounced dead. Or patients in rigor mortis

Keep in mind most ambulance crews have contact- video contact- with an emergency physician.

Would anyone want, after bringing their loved one to the ER for life saving measures, to have their doctor interrupted with a dead patient to attend to?

Here is the fact of the story:
“Emergency departments are severely overcrowded and transporting patients pronounced on the scene only increases emergency departments workload and potentially exposes emergency department staff and patients to COVID-19,” the Regional Emergency Medical Services Council said in a statement.


20 posted on 04/03/2020 7:27:33 AM PDT by stanne
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