Posted on 04/02/2020 1:06:02 PM PDT by Larry55
Why is COVID-19 worse than past viruses?
The 1968-69 Hong Kong flu caused 1 million deaths worldwide 6 months after the first case.
COVID-19 has caused 50,000 deaths 4 ½ months after the first case.
The link below contains a chart for the number of deaths from Pneumonia and Influenza in annual flu seasons (page S5).
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.323.4407&rep=rep1&type=pdf
Notice something familiar? Each year there is a sharp, exponential increase in flu deaths, just like we see with COVID-19.
How does the COVID-19 case/ death rate compare with past viruses 4 ½ months after the first case?
I can’t find that data.
What is different about COVID-19 that requires us to respond by mass hysteria and shutting down our world?
I have no idea.
Any suggestions?
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It is! And bio-weapons with today’s methods of genetic/chemical engineering have some unique properties and characteristics that make them difficult to deal with.
It’s a strain of the flu virus. Same symptoms attacking the same people afflicted with previous respiratory ailments.
The media and hyping politicians act like the symptoms are new. They complain of “shortness of breath”, aches and pains, fever, chills and hot spells, lack of taste and smell, etc.
All like influenza depending on the severity. I’ve had many of those symptoms yearly with my pollen allergies, aka, hayfever.
Without a vaccine (that we have for influenza but still have 40-60K deaths a year) we need to build immunity.
I saw a article posted here about arresting families having Covid parties to expose so as to build immunity. We had measel parties when I was a kid. I grew up when to only vaccine was for polio. We built up our antibodies by getting the measels, mumps, chicken pox, etc.
Also,
Why are we letting would be tyrants decide who is essential and non-essential?
Why can I stand 1 foot away from a cashier buying beer in a mini-mart but can’t stand in line to get CBD oil? Why can illegal aliens landscape property but my wife and I can’t get a haircut?
If you want to see some gun-toting pissed of citizen telling our overlord govs and mayors to back off, keep my wife from getting a hair cut, color and straightening treatment for one more week!
Why are we supposed to stay at home under threat of arrest? Do we now need “papers” to prove my leaving the house is essential?
Then on the other hand they tell us to just get stuff delivered. So delivery people can travel anywhere they want and not stay at home and could increase my risk of getting sick. But as long as I can get booze and Taco Bell that’s okay? What about their safety? Do we screen all delivery persons first? The UPS and FedEx and Amazon driver?
Notice how food places all have printed signs saying OPEN and TAKE OUT and TO GO? Notice how fast TV ad companies have quickly put out commercials telling you how you can get stuff delivered? I guess those businesses were essential and I’m pretty sure more than 10 people are working at those agencies and printing companies at one time.
Why are the little factories here in Franklin TN that make machine parts, insulated wiring and oscillating fans (box fans, desk fans, etc) operating with Hundreds of workers confined in one space but I can go to church?
One size fits all never takes the unlimited tangents into account. It’s impossible. So why do we give them the power?
In Nashville you can call 311 or rat out a business that, as explained, “you don’t think should be open”. Talk about communism.
He’s a fear monger. Just cuts and paste from dubious sources to scare with “likely” “maybe” “could” etc.
COVID 19 hits mostly the elderly who already have pre existing conditions.
Context is everything.
Semi-Dry test run for a future black flag event.
If the new world elitists in control of the media can grab this much control over governments with a a virus like this one, just imagine what they can do with a REALLY NASTY virus engineered in the lab.
Nor is it clear that anyone knows when the first case of Hong Kong flu occurred.
As for the deadliness of the Wuhan Coronavirus, even with a proposed ‘miracle cure’ available, we are seeing earlier reported death rates as calculated by the naïve deaths/case methodology continuously climb in given countries.
South Korea has been lauded for weeks for its comprehensive testing. In the early stages their death/cases rate was very low as well. Then it stabilized at around 0.4% as it turned the corner at the beginning of March.
With relatively few new cases that death rate has continued to creep up.
Date cases dead rec death/cases
3/22 8897 104 2909 1.12%
3/23 8961 111 3166 1.24%
3/24 9037 120 3507 1.33%
3/25 9137 126 3730 1.38%
3/26 9241 131 4144 1.42%
3/27 9332 139 4528 1.49%
3/28 9478 144 4811 1.52%
3/29 9583 152 5033 1.59%
3/30 9661 158 5228 1.63%
3/31 9786 162 5408 1.65%
4/01 9887 165 5567 1.67%
4/02 9976 169 5828 1.69%
Unresolved is at 40% now, which is far lower than anyplace else other than China.
Convergence of death/resolved arc and death/case looks like it will be at about 2.1% if treatments do not further change.
South Korea appears to have successfully limited the spread to a relatively small number, and there do not appear to be any vast unknown-infected, as there is only a small spread rate.
For NYC, roughly 1/3 of all the reported deaths from the Coronavirus have been reported in the past two days, and 1/2 in the past 3 days..
This virus has been in the United States since December.
No news articles are calling it “novel” anymore, they switched to “new”.
The early cases in Washington State were determined to have gone through two mutations before the people who were diagnosed contracted the disease. How long does it take this strain to mutate?
Some of don’t care to create profile pages—who cares? Freeper here for almost 20 years.
You can't really say that it is clearly more deadly than the flu except in individual cases.
CV is believed to have an R0 of 2-3%.
Believed by whom? You have to say believed because that is a wiggle-room word. Can't say is. The truth is that the R0 number for coronavirus is not known.
Nobody is believed to have immunity to CV.
There's that word believed again. Nobody knows. There are a lot of people that have tested positive and had no symptoms. We don't know even how many have been infected that have not been tested. A lot more people should be tested to find out, either for active coronavirus or antibody tested after the fact to see if they have been infected in the past.
Likelihood it will overwhelm our hospital systems.
That is another unknown. What about overwhelming our social welfare system? Isn't death by drug overdose or being murdered as concerning as death by viral illness? We are causing 3.5 million people to be unemployed over something that we can't quantify with any reliable measure. We have scientists who can't predict the weather telling us that sea levels are rising 10 centimeters per year. We have scientists telling us that the pandemic could kill between twenty thousand and two million and we are acting based on the two million. It is most likely somewhere in between 20,000 and 2,000,000.
The Guardian (March 21) and some other news media stated that about 80% of people who get Covid-19 experience a mild case [WHO said the same] – about as serious as a regular cold – and recover without needing any special treatment.[1]
Also, the amount of the coronavirus that you first take in may play a factor in the severity of your symptoms (other aspects being equal).[2]
CDC (March 18): among patients with COVID-19 in the United States the estimated fatality rate among persons aged 19 years and younger was 0%; 1% among persons aged 20–54 years; 1% to 3% among persons aged 55-64 years, and ranging from 10% to 27% among persons aged 85 and up.[3] 80 percent of US coronavirus deaths are people 65 and older.[4]
Live Science reported (March 30) that,
a recent study of COVID-19 cases in the United States estimated a mortality rate of 10% to 27% for those ages 85 and over, 3% to 11% for those ages 65 to 84, 1% to 3% for those ages 55 to 64 and less than 1% for those ages 20 to 54. South Korea, which conducted more than 140,000 tests for COVID-19, officials found a overall fatality rate of 0.6%[5]
As of March 23 Italy and South Korea had reported no fatalities for the 10 to 19 years old age group. China reported that 0.2 percent of cases for these young people end in death[6].
Another study of COVID-19 cases in Wuhan, China, estimates that the death rate among people who were infected and developed symptoms was 1.4 percent. The study, reported yesterday in Nature Medicine, suggests that the overall CFR—including people who are infected but do not develop symptoms—will prove to be much lower in the United States than many people feared[7] .
The worldwide fatality rate (Feb. 29) for those 80 years old and up was 14.8%, almost twice that of those 70-79 years old (8.0%) and which itself is over twice as much as those aged 60-69 years old (3.6%), which rate is over twice as much as those aged 50-59 years old (1.3%) while for those aged 40-49 years old it is 0.4%, and 0.2% for those aged 10-39 years old.
As regards health conditions, those must vulnerable are those with Cardiovascular disease, then Diabetes, and after that Diabetes, Hypertension, then Cancer.[8]
Relevant to that, more than 99% of Italy's coronavirus fatalities were people who suffered from previous medical conditions.[9] Also, three out of four young NYC Coronavirus fatalities had other medical conditions (Mar. 27).[8]
More on worldwide demographic and health condition fatality rates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
Therefore the COVID-19 coronavirus is especially dangerous to the aged and those with certain per-existing conditions, these being the most vulnerable.
However, since you use the word “dangerous” in regards to life then we should consider other dangers to the same. In regard to that, being in the womb means one is very vulnerable as it places one in danger death, especially since America murders over 2,000 of those souls a day[11].
And if we should consider a comparative perspective, the US death toll from Covid-19 after 2 months (Feb-March) is 5,000[12] (4–1), which is less than the average yearly fatality rate from motor vehicle accidents (over 90 people deaths per day,[13] 39,404 people in 2018 - though many are omitted) which figures to be a 12.04 death rate per 100,000 population[14]).
And out of 169,936 preventable deaths in 2017, an estimated 125,300 preventable injury-related deaths were in homes and communities, which constitutes about 75% of all preventable injury-related deaths[15].
In addition, obesity and being overweight are together the second leading cause of preventable death in the United States[16].
Meanwhile, though we are to seek to prevent deaths, what is most important is who and what we live for, and where we will spend eternity. May all repent and believe.
Hope this helps. Peace by Jesus
Footnotes
And according to estimates, between 61,000 to 80,000 Americans died during the 2017-2018 season, the latter being the highest death toll in 40 years. During that 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018, (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm) with older Americans dying at a rate of 169 Americans a day, or seven people per hour. (https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2018/older-flu-deaths-rising.html Additional stats on the current 2019-2020 flu season are provided below the table.
“Herd disagreement” among prognosticators.
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