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White House projects grim death toll from coronavirus
The Hill ^ | 03 31 2020 | Morgan Chalfant and Jessie Hellmann

Posted on 03/31/2020 5:15:00 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

President Trump's top health advisers said Tuesday that models show between 100,000 and 240,000 Americans could die from the novel coronavirus even if the country keeps stringent social distancing guidelines in place.

Without any measures to mitigate the disease's spread, those projections jump to between 1.5 and 2.2 million deaths from COVID-19.

Dr. Deborah Birx explained the data, which underpinned Trump’s decision to extend social distancing guidelines to the end of April, at a White House briefing on Tuesday, urging the public to steel for difficult weeks ahead while expressing hope that the efforts would reduce the spread of the coronavirus.

“There’s no magic bullet. There’s no magic vaccine or therapy. It’s just behaviors,” Birx, who is coordinating the federal government’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, said, adding that those behaviors could change “the course of the viral pandemic.”

Trump, who has adopted an increasingly somber tone when speaking about the virus, urged Americans to heed the guidelines while warning of a “tough period” ahead.

“We’re going to go through a very tough two weeks, and then hopefully ... you’re going to start seeing some real light at the end of the tunnel,” Trump said in remarks from the White House briefing room Tuesday evening shortly before Birx spoke.

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Whether you believe this is a hoax or real this statement means medical advisors are telling Trump this is real. The upshot is this will either happen or it wont.

Within the next two to four weeks, based on the predictions given to Trump, we will know if people are lying to Trump and the American people to make Trump look bad or they are giving Trump accurate projections because they're trying to help Trump and the American people.

Place your bets.

RELATED:

Fauci: Coronavirus mitigation measures can't be loosened

Mitigation strategies should not be loosened if Americans hope to lessen the impact of the coronavirus, Dr. Anthony Fauci said Tuesday.

"It’s not time to take your foot off the accelerator ... but to just press it down," Fauci said during a White House press briefing.

Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus task force coordinator, said models show that measures such as social distancing can bring down the infection curve and prevent a worst-case scenario — but only if they are rigorously followed.

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1 posted on 03/31/2020 5:15:00 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Those people who claim this is a hoax are calling my president a liar.

Flubros might be OK with 2 million dead Americans. But not me.


2 posted on 03/31/2020 5:21:36 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: yesthatjallen

bkmrk


3 posted on 03/31/2020 5:27:28 PM PDT by sbnsd
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To: Responsibility2nd

2 million dead is absolute worse case scenario with zero mitigation...we won’t come near the 200K prediction with methods put in place now. Overreaction necessary to keep the media from way overplaying their band and stirring everyone to a frenzied panic. There will be hospitals that are busy and hospitals sending people home with nothing to do. It’s still just a flu.


4 posted on 03/31/2020 5:27:37 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: yesthatjallen
Whether you believe this is a hoax or real this statement means medical advisors are telling Trump this is real. The upshot is this will either happen or it wont. Within the next two to four weeks, based on the predictions given to Trump, we will know if people are lying to Trump and the American people to make Trump look bad or they are giving Trump accurate projections because they're trying to help Trump and the American people. Place your bets.

I think it's real and the President and Vice President are doing a great job. IF we all do our part these numbers may be less. If we have the attitude that it's just the flu and carry on normally we're contributing to pain and suffering and undercutting President Trump.

5 posted on 03/31/2020 5:30:37 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: yesthatjallen

I am so tired of the use of the word “grim”, it is so cliche... I can hear the soundtrack and see the black and red chryon letters going across the screen...

I have been following the Univ of WA website. Very helpful and updated everyday.

https://covid19.healthdata.org One can go to their state and see what the projected stats are for each day. Compare those numbers to what is listed by say Worldometer and see how close the projections are. There is the mean projection as well as the low and high projections. All very interesting as the govt is using this particular model.

Follow the bouncing ball...


6 posted on 03/31/2020 5:31:17 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: yesthatjallen

[Within the next two to four weeks, based on the predictions given to Trump, we will know if people are lying to Trump and the American people to make Trump look bad]


I don’t see how we’re going to know that in weeks. Maybe 3 or 4 months. It really depends on how long the pandemic lasts. We will likely hit 800+ deaths for today’s single-day body count. Italy’s maxed out at about 900+, with 1/5 the population, but its daily count hasn’t been below 600 in the past 10 days. Our daily peak will probably be in the thousands.


7 posted on 03/31/2020 5:31:17 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: yesthatjallen

How come they keep saying this when we know we have a treatment that works in most cases?


8 posted on 03/31/2020 5:31:25 PM PDT by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: sbnsd

This claim works in Trumps favor either way. If the projections hold true, he will claims he has been honest with the American People and has done everything possible. By the way, I think he is being honest. It also allows him to justify any future actions he may take regarding this matter. If the numbers fall far short, he will take credit and rightfully so.


9 posted on 03/31/2020 5:32:48 PM PDT by RBW in PA (I have it from a reliable source that his is not fake news :))
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To: ripnbang

Zero mitigation. As we know, many FReepers want exactly that.

Any efforts to order a shelter in place is “unconstitutional”.


10 posted on 03/31/2020 5:34:34 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: yesthatjallen

My only criticism of today’s presser is that it is potentially placing a crushing weight of guilt on folks who will torment themselves with coulda/woulda/shoulda if someone in their circle of friends succumbs to the ChinaFlu.

The more mentally unbalanced may off themselves....


11 posted on 03/31/2020 5:34:46 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

And at what point does “emergency” become normalcy-—15 days, another 30 days, “O, Dr. Fauci says we need another 90 days...”?


12 posted on 03/31/2020 5:36:03 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Where the heck to start with this one:

First off: The Hill and panic. What a shock.

Second: Dr. Fauci Duci Doo should be isolated because he is a cancer. Trump needs newer voices who have no bureaucratic, DC connection. This guys is the worst person to be anywhere near this right now. He is a bureaucrat first and a doctor last. His DNA is all about prolonging problems and not solving them. He is the ultimate functionary.

Solve a problem?!?! No way man, that is the death of a bureaucrat. It is the end of job security. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think he is being Dr. Stephen King on purpose. It is just what he has devolved into after all those years in DC.

Mention a lockdown and this guy is for it, instantly, like yesterday. No lockdown is large enough. No amount of scuttling of our economy and our future is out of the question!!!!

Everyone should be put into an iron box and fed intravenously? YES YES YES YES and more YES says Dr. Egghead Arsehat. Like yesterday, please!!! LOCK EM DOWN!! Free Country?!!? Oh so unscientific.

But mention a possible treatment or cure? WHAT?!?!? No no no no, we need months and months of study followed by a meeting where we will have a discussion about what we will meet about the next meeting and when and where that meeting should be. Cure?!?! No way. LOCK EM DOWN!!!!

And to boot, he is a coward. I watched him this weekend and it was pathetic. First, he excuses his past erroneous estimates and projections by playing on the limitations of modeling and projections as being based on, and only as good as, assumptions. Then he proceeds to give the latest projection and caps it off with a great big poop cherry of “But don’t hold me to that.”

Foget that I screwed up yesterday, today I am on it, but don’t hold me to that.

Third: I love how any estimates and models about this virus are sacrosanct. If you don’t believe them or accept them, according to the MSM you are not taking this disease seriously.

I am taking it very seriously.

But just one little ole question. Why is that estimates and projections about the collateral damage and deaths that may result form the destruction of our economy are INSTANTLY dismissed?

Why is that?

Who knows, but I am sure Fauci the Magnificent will save us all, even if it kill us.

But I will tell you this. They are running out of fear darts. People are starting to have the fear of how they will pay the mortgage, how they will afford health care, how they will survive. That fear is putting the teeter totter to the other side and when it hits the ground COVID-19 is going to fly like it was shot out of a catapult. And that will be tragic.

Dr. El Duce should start mouthing these words: “I Don’t Know.” He should start realizing that if you are perceived as crying wolf, soon nobody will listen even though you might be correct.


13 posted on 03/31/2020 5:36:37 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Zhang Fei

Between the days of April 10-21st each day will see more than 2k deaths (projected) due to Covid-19. https://covid19.healthdata.org Those will be tough days for the nation. The President is trying to prepare the nation for those dark days that are on their way. Stay strapped in folks.


14 posted on 03/31/2020 5:38:04 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: ripnbang

Oh come one now. Why stop at 2. My models and projections based on assumption say at least 5. Go big or go home people.

Or just admit the reality that affects even Dr. Fauci Duce Doo. Admit to not knowing.

Serious?

ABSOLUTELY.

Serious enough to justify killing the patient? Nothing is.


15 posted on 03/31/2020 5:38:17 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Responsibility2nd

Because there is no middle ground, right?

Ah serfdom. If Obama had realized it was this easy, think what he could have accomplished with the less serious pandemic of H!N!.


16 posted on 03/31/2020 5:39:49 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bill Gates and the NWO Thugs thank you for your unquestioning faith.

Accept the Paradigm they give you.
Don’t think about the other possibilities of this escalating tyranny.
Demonize those who are trying to expose these pathological liars who can look the camera in the eye and not even flinch. Wow- Congrats to Tavistock!

We have been here before with these Liars and they are never held accountable.

Nevertheless -There is no excuse for being so poorly informed about the past and not see the pattern in front of you. Trump is playing his part very well to take us all down the biggest rabbit hole to date, and whether it is voluntary or not is of no importance to me any more.

This is the Big Test that Pompeo and other pompous asses are bragging about to see how many of us are swallowing it hole. Way too many on FR aren’t even gagging.


17 posted on 03/31/2020 5:40:16 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m certainly not calling Trump a liar.

Lied to? Misled? Perhaps.


18 posted on 03/31/2020 5:40:35 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: lightman

It’s a balancing act, to be sure. And the end result is completely unknown. Do we put America back to work now and cut our economic losses and except maybe 2 million dead?

Do we accept local and state officials demanding that we shelter at home in an effort to save millions of lives but at a cost of trillions and trillions of dollars?

I wish I had a crystal ball. I wish I knew the answer. But right now all I can do is trust my president.


19 posted on 03/31/2020 5:41:32 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: abigkahuna
726 dead of Chinese virus in US today so far. Compared to 558 dead yesterday". So it's definitely trending in that direction.
20 posted on 03/31/2020 5:41:42 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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