Posted on 03/30/2020 9:15:08 AM PDT by Yardstick
President Donald Trump said U.S. health officials should have a “good idea” whether an anti-malaria drug being tested as a treatment for COVID-19 is effective in fighting the coronavirus in “the next three days.”
“Hydroxychloroquine is something that I have been pushing very hard,” Trump said Monday morning during an interview on Fox News. “I think we’re going to have a good idea over the next three days because it’s been used now in New York at my request -- 1,100 people. It’s been used. I think that’s better than testing it in a laboratory. But the doctors tell me no.”
There are no proven therapies for the treatment of COVID-19 and U.S. health officials expect a vaccine could take 12 to 18 months.
New York state last week began the first large-scale clinical trial using a combination of chloroquine and Azithromycin to treat the coronavirus after the Food and Drug Administration fast-tracked the approval process.
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I dam near shedd a tear when I think of the Miracle of 16.
We got the man upstairs blessing when this POTUS was elected.
One night I doubt anyone will forget.
Regardless of the results of the trial, Peter Alexander is still a horrible reporter.
I read somewhere were NY was giving it only to people who have been put on ventilators.
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I’ve seen comments along these lines but I don’t think it’s true, or at least is an overstatement. They seem to be selecting patients with “moderate to severe” symptoms but I haven’t seen anything about them being on a respirator per se.
From the article:
“””””””The plan is for officials to find coronavirus patients with moderate and severe cases whose medical histories suggest they could benefit from the drugs.
Officials don’t expect to see critical patients going from grave conditions to full recovery instantly. “We’re looking to see much more subtle measurable outcomes, including lower viral loads, shorter duration of illness,” the official said.”””””””””
They do seem to be expecting this choice of patients to give less dramatic improvements. My impression is HCQ is most effective when given earlier in the progression versus later. But maybe the officials want it to be clear cut that they’re testing HCQ as a treatment rather than as prophylaxis. If you have patients with only slight or no symptoms (even though they’ve tested positive) maybe it could be seen as blurring the distinction. Just speculating.
the next real blessing we need from Jesus and his Father (besides the blessing of one more minute) is The Re-Election of Trump Blessing.
The Miracle of 2016 will only be complete if we can have a Miracle of 2020 Re-Election
So true. It will be seen as a turning point in the history of the US a hundred years from now.
Just be sure to take the hydroxychloroquine sulfate NOT the phosphate! The phosphate is NOT the same thing!
Exactly- 80% on time beats the hell out of 100% too late.
>>Most people with less severe symptoms will spontaneously recover. <<
Do you have even the least bit of evidence to support that statement?
Most people who are symptomatic start with “less severe symptoms.” Obviously they don’t go from no symptoms to needing a ventilator with no symptom progression in between.
So, how do you know which ones with “less severe symptoms” are going to “spontaneously recover” and which ones are going to go south? Answer: You don’t. Which is why they should all be treated with the drug combo. Plus, it might well turn out that it’s most effective given early. We just don’t know yet.
I wouldn’t trust the CDC. They will lie about it just to suppress it a while longer and keep the destruction going.
CDC is Democrat run.
They have an incredible data set from the French Doctor. 1,291 people treated and only 1 of them has passed. That’s 0.08% mortality rate. Lower than the seasonal flu. They have a separate control group - the entire population of those infected, the death rate is much higher.
There was no reason to delay this treatment to the entire population of those infected.
There was posted here a few days ago a letter from a doctor in an upstate NY community who was giving this treatment to all symptomatic patients - I did not see his data but he swore it was effective. The NY doctor added Zinc supplements to the regimen, I am not sure why exactly but probably to do with helping block the virus receptor sites.
This
> There was no reason to delay this treatment to the entire population of those infected.
Many died because of this needlessly, probably over 1,000 dead because of this delay, maybe more, how sad.
CDC is more worried about Climate Change than Pandemics.
Thanks for the name. I remember reading it.
The limitations placed on only giving it to ICU patients is ridiculous - let alone those idiotic soon to be ex-governors who have banned its use outright. It should be at least given to everyone symptomatic or postive for the virus, above age 50, and/or with underlying conditions like diabetes, hypertension, CV disease etc, or, whom after watchful waiting show deteriorating conditions.
By doing what he’s been doing President Trump has pushed HCQ to the front lines faster than it ever would have happened otherwise, maybe much faster. For that matter, maybe it never would have made the front lines at all if he hadn’t made it a prominent part of his press briefing last week.
Also, people always seem to think Trump is going with his gut. He’s got access to more information than anyone else in the world if he wants it. All he has to do is assign someone to get the information and report back. If he thinks HCQ is going to work, he’s going on a lot more than his gut by now.
Which is why they should all be treated with the drug combo.
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No, because the drugs themselves have potential side effects.
Bureaucrats. Trump has better sense than the functionaries in the alphabet swamp. They have their protocols, and sign-offs, and meetings to attend and inter-agency consultations. They needed to act swiftly and failed. They had the data in real time. Trump and others have been pushing them hard to move on this for weeks, only today does the FDA approve the wide use of this cheap, generic, and effective drug combination!
There needs to be a reckoning.
‘No, because the drugs themselves have potential side effects.’
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Not a factual statement without stating facts, like, WHAT side effects? Source?
You are killing people with your ill informed statements here.
>>But maybe the officials want it to be clear cut that they’re testing HCQ as a treatment rather than as prophylaxis.>>
When you consider it, that makes sense. It’s already being tried early in a lot of places, but they also need to investigate it’s effectiveness when given later, after symptoms have progressed.
So they pick people along the range of symptoms (from moderate to severe) and see which patients along that spectrum benefit, if any, from use of the drug. One ER doctor (?) for example said that he didn’t see any obvious benefit to his patients on ventilators. Maybe it’s useless by then. We really don’t know yet.
If it’s shown to work across the board, then obviously it would be given earlier too. And if it works mostly prior to onset of severe symptoms, well, that would argue for pushing its use to earlier in the process as well. The problem arises if its not shown to be effective in the moderate to severe cases. Then you’re back to wondering if it’s really working at all.
That would be April 1, Aprils Fools Day.
Damn.
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