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Spain Says Coronavirus Tests Bought From China Fail To Detect Positive Cases
businessinsider.com ^ | Mar 26, 2020

Posted on 03/28/2020 11:01:46 PM PDT by Helicondelta

Microbiology experts in Spain have said that rapid coronavirus tests that the country bought from China are not consistently detecting positive cases.

Studies on the tests done in Spain found that they had only 30% sensitivity, meaning they correctly identify people with the virus only 30% of the time, sources told the Spanish newspaper El País.

The studies prompted the Spanish Society of Infectious Diseases and Clinical Microbiology to formally recommend not using these tests, El País reported. Health workers are now meant to use other tests that take longer to give a result.

Fernando Simón, the director of Spain's health-emergencies coordination center, said on Thursday that Spain checked 9,000 of the tests, found that their results were not consistent enough, and decided to return them.

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To: Helicondelta

It’s like China has a death-wish.


21 posted on 03/29/2020 12:26:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Professional

More positives would indeed prolong the economic destruction, however.


22 posted on 03/29/2020 12:30:59 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Helicondelta

wAiT I thot Chinr wAs tHe gLobl ledr of thE planET now


23 posted on 03/29/2020 12:40:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some of the folks around these parts have been sniffing super flu.)
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To: Helicondelta

24 posted on 03/29/2020 12:52:58 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (BLACK LIVES MAGA)
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To: MAGAthon

compare Ferguson/ICL’s 20,000 revised figure in Wash Examiner with the following:

30 Nov 2018: UK Independent: Ineffective flu vaccine added to 50,000 extra deaths last winter, ONS says
Human suffering and lost lives over winter ‘predictable, preventable and shameful’, fuel poverty campaigners say
by Alex Matthews-King
The flu vaccine’s failure to protect against some of the key strains of the infection contributed to more than 50,000 “extra” deaths in England and Wales last winter, according to data from the Office of National Statistics.

It was the worst winter on record for more than 40 years, with the 1975-76 season being the last time deaths climbed so high above the expected levels.
The NHS was rocked by a record winter crisis in early 2018, with a massive rise in flu cases and sub-zero temperatures triggered by the Beast from the East storm, which added further to death rates...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/flu-vaccine-deaths-nhs-ineffective-crisis-bad-weather-illness-2017-a8660496.html

and nobody blinked, much less locked down.


25 posted on 03/29/2020 1:06:28 AM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: MAGAthon

reminder of Marc Lipsitch’s sneaking revision by tweet, which the MSM ignored.

Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: The latest on the coronavirus
March 2: Coronavirus may infect up to 70% of world’s population, expert says (CBS News)
According to Marc Lipsitch, 40% to 70% of the world’s adult population could become infected with the new coronavirus, and of those, 1% could die from COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus. (In a later tweet, Lipsitch revised his estimates downward, to 20% to 60% of adults becoming infected.)
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/the-latest-on-the-coronavirus/

Tweet: Marc Lipsitch
Because I am now less certain of where the R0 will end up (and how it may vary geographically) I am going to revise downward the range of outcomes I consider plausible to 20%-60% of adults infected. This involves subjectivity about what range of R0 may turn out to be true.
3 Mar 2020
https://twitter.com/mlipsitch/status/1234879949946814464

it’s still only Lipsitch’s guess.

between Lipsitch and Ferguson, you got the MSM incitement to panic and the lock-downs.


26 posted on 03/29/2020 1:08:30 AM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: MAGAthon

17 Mar: StatNews: A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
By John P.A. Ioannidis (Stanford University epidemiologist)
The data collected so far on how many people are infected and how the epidemic is evolving are utterly unreliable...
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/


27 posted on 03/29/2020 1:13:50 AM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: Helicondelta

Spain Says Coronavirus Tests Bought From China Fail To Detect Positive Cases


Translation: A lot more people have it than we thought, which means the morbidity rate is a lot lower than we thought.


28 posted on 03/29/2020 1:14:31 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Helicondelta

Big mistake trusting the Red Chinese with medical equipment. You’d think we would have learned by now in the West.


29 posted on 03/29/2020 1:16:07 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Helicondelta

#RippedOff
#FeelsBadMan


30 posted on 03/29/2020 1:18:35 AM PDT by cranked
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To: MAGAthon

Wiley Online Library: Coronavirus disease 2019: the harms of exaggerated information and non-evidence-based measures
by John P.A. Ioannidis, Departments of Medicine, of Epidemiology and Population Health, of Biomedical Data Science, and of Statistics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA, USA
If COVID-19 is not as grave as it is depicted, high evidence standards are equally relevant. Exaggeration and over-reaction may seriously damage the reputation of science, public health, media, and policy makers. It may foster disbelief that will jeopardize the prospects of an appropriately strong response if and when a more major pandemic strikes in the future.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/eci.13223


31 posted on 03/29/2020 1:20:00 AM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It is generating false negatives. The article is poorly worded, but it does say that the tests are missing the virus in patients who actually have it.


32 posted on 03/29/2020 1:21:25 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: Helicondelta

This is like H1N1, except it just may bring on a great depression worldwide.

All thanks to the MSM and social media. This has become the “Take two hydroxychloroquine and call me in the morning” virus for me.

I’m completely over it.

The good side is that I’ve been able to avoid my 3 hour commute every day by working at home. It’s given me an opportunity to get a TON of stuff done around the acreage.
Every cloud has a silver lining. :)

Turn off the TV, folks.


33 posted on 03/29/2020 1:26:48 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: cuban leaf

Imperial College predicted 500,000 UK deaths and 2.2million in the US. now look - but of course they are trying to pretend the lower figures are because of the lockdown. more likely, just trying to look less extreme. read it all in the leftist Mirror:

28 Mar: UK Mirror: Coronavirus death toll could be ‘just’ 5,700 - but only if lockdown rules obeyed
Coronavirus could kill asfew as 5,700 people in Britain with the peak of the outbreak as early as next Sunday if people stringently follow the government’s social distancing advice
by Nicola Bartless & Jeremy Culley
The paper from Imperial College, London, says that 5,700 people will die in Britain if the disease follows the same pattern as China now lockdown measures are in place.
This follows the government’s chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance’s grim assertion that 20,000 deaths in the UK would represent a “good outcome”.

Hundreds of thousands are feared to be at risk of death if no intervention is made...
The 5,700 lives lost in Britain as a result of the pandemic would amount to fewer annual deaths than seasonal flu...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-death-toll-could-just-21769975


34 posted on 03/29/2020 1:42:48 AM PDT by MAGAthon ( Fauc)
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To: Helicondelta

Collection of the samples is the issue. Plenty of false neg samples every flu season.. same reason.
If it didnt hurt, it wasn’t collected right.


35 posted on 03/29/2020 3:02:54 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with)
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To: Professional

No. You didnt read it correctly. The test only identifies 30% of people who should test positive. It FALSELY LOWERS THE NUMBERS.


36 posted on 03/29/2020 4:34:55 AM PDT by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: Helicondelta

Create your own test, Spain. We did.


37 posted on 03/29/2020 4:54:02 AM PDT by RealVirginia
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To: Helicondelta

Well, duh, what do you expect?


38 posted on 03/29/2020 5:18:50 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The US media is the most destructive, mendacious irresponsible institution that there is.)
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To: mass55th

Didn’t they do something to dry wall materials too?


39 posted on 03/29/2020 5:31:42 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Helicondelta

Impossible. Just a couple days ago China was pronounced the world leader in Coronavirus response.


40 posted on 03/29/2020 6:08:41 AM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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