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Estimates Show Wuhan Death Toll Far Higher Than Official Figure
Radio Free Asia ^ | 2020-03-27 | Qiao Long and Lau Siu-fung Translated and edited by Luisetta Mudie

Posted on 03/27/2020 11:42:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: Zhang Fei

Estimates are essentially fake news

made up, untrue


21 posted on 03/28/2020 4:44:01 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Go look around Europe right now....80-percent of refrigerators sold are Chinese-made. The warehouse operations probably have enough to handle normal purchases up to mid-summer. At that point, if the production cycle hasn’t started up, I see vast shortages of refrigerator units. Same for air conditioners.”

One of my kids has a very large chest freezer that he’s not using and doesn’t need. I figure as freezers start to break down in the US, and the replacement supply is dry, it will be worth more and more - maybe enough to pay for his prepping!


22 posted on 03/28/2020 4:44:44 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Zhang Fei

Communist governments lie. Oh wait, all governments lie.

JoMa


23 posted on 03/28/2020 5:09:39 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks.)
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It’s all part of the plan to show us how much we need big government and globalism. Notice how effed up it is.
I don’t believe any of the numbers, especially those numbers out of China, Italy, or any other socialist rat hole.
This is all a bunch of shite.


24 posted on 03/28/2020 5:24:09 AM PDT by .44 Special (Tiamid Buacach!)
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To: Zhang Fei
Stateside, and probably throughout Europe, because of the special funding for covid-19 cases, I expect more causes of death are being coded as part of the pandemic in order to get more funding to cover chronic medical facility budget shortfalls or just to get on the gravy train.

Very true. Something we need to keep in mind.

25 posted on 03/28/2020 5:28:58 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Zhang Fei

The one calculation that you can’t inject into this....the normal monthly deaths in Wuhan (just in general, from cancer and murder to food poisoning and old age). With a city of 11-million, you’d figure at least 5,000 folks would have passed away monthly without the aid of the virus.]
No telling what the Wuhan deaths are, normally, without access to official Chinese stats but deaths for China as a whole were 7.14 per 1000 population in 2019. Wuhan has 11m people, so monthly deaths would be 7.14 x 11,000 / 12 = 6,545. Assuming the numbers cover a 3 month period, and the low estimate of 42,000 urns over that period, that’s 42,000 - 3 x 6,545 = 22,365 excess deaths over the normal run-of-the-mill death numbers, which is likely explicable by the covid-19 pandemic. And that’s just in Wuhan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China#Table_of_births_and_deaths_1950%E2%80%932019

What about the rest of the province? And the rest of China? My guess is a minimum of the low hundreds of thousands. Based on the numbers we’re seeing out of Italy, and merely multiplying by 20 to size up to China’s population, I’d say a minimum of 200,000 deaths.
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My frustration is when I question the assumption people make that we haven’t seen the worst yet in the U.S., and that we will be like Italy or like China, they assume I don’t think this is real.

My energy is praying for people globally, and acting locally. If we make the grossly overreacting actions to stay shut down, then we’re doomed. We have to take chances and get working again. For example, Wilmington, NC beaches home owners cannot rent out their investment properties now. That is insane. Foreclosures will skyrocket. Next Monday, PDJT needs to take the heat and tell people to go back to work .yes, I said that.


26 posted on 03/28/2020 5:46:20 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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China needs to pay a serious economic price to the globe after all of this is over, not only in starting, concealing and facilitating the spread of the pandemic but in continued intentional misdirection in data analysis to the rest of the world hampering its fight against the pandemic they started. They are not a first world democratic nation and they should not be treated as such. Return them to an agrarian society where they belong under communist rule.


27 posted on 03/28/2020 6:13:09 AM PDT by chuckee
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Because China lies to try to cover up it’s inability to coordinate any sort of actual solution...now the propaganda is aimed as much at her own people as it is to the rest of the world...


28 posted on 03/28/2020 6:56:18 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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On the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Info site, for three days China was claiming ‘no new cases’ and their number stood at 81, 897. They have upped it by 99 this morning. China is OBVIOUSLY lying. But I have Leftist friends who are claiming that China has beaten this virus and we should follow their model.

Ignorance abounds in the USA. I WISH everyone would just tell the truth out there.


29 posted on 03/28/2020 7:14:05 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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But, for three days, the confirmed cases in China (on the Johns Hopkins Site) stood still at 81,897. How can there ever be over 100,000 deaths if only around 83,000 (updated by 99 more today) have been confirmed cases in China?? (Big S)


30 posted on 03/28/2020 7:17:14 AM PDT by originalbuckeye ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act'- George Orwell..?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Naaah. Can’t be. The chinese are honest AF and are the worlds “besties4EVR”.

I hope the Chinese people rise up and consume the chicoms.


31 posted on 03/28/2020 8:06:13 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“The FluBros told me to trust the ChiComs.”

Really? The Covidiots have pushed the news of Chinese crematoriums running 24/7 and wooden doors magically being welded shut as proof that the Omega Man virus was upon us from day one.


32 posted on 03/28/2020 10:30:36 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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Thanks, Zhang Fei! Good counts, good estimates, considering the many eyewitness reports coming out of Wuhan over the months. So sorry for the overly indebted folks who lost money from the disaster that they didn’t plan or save for.


33 posted on 03/28/2020 5:34:31 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Political class services/government interests are lying here in the States and helping to spread the disease, too, BTW.

Washington ER doctor loses job after criticizing hospital’s coronavirus response
https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-doctor-loses-job-criticizing-coranavirus-response


34 posted on 03/28/2020 5:36:46 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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"I can’t believe China would lie about such a thing."

What happened to the sarcasm tag?

35 posted on 03/29/2020 7:44:59 AM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy is not what it used to be.)
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To: HangThemHigh

Hey, if folks needed a /sarc tag for that, they’re too dumb to be participating here.


36 posted on 03/29/2020 5:37:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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