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The Wuhan Option: Consider A Cordon Sanitaire Around New York City, Says Former Trump Advisor
Posted on 03/25/2020 8:37:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The city is already locked down, with residents asked to remain at home as much as possible per one of Andrew Cuomos orders a week ago.
What Tom Bossert has in mind is a lock-in. No one in or out, except suppliers. Wall the city off until the spread of infection there is under control, whenever that is. Otherwise were risking the same problem that the Chinese had in Wuhan, moving too slowly to restrict the outflow of people and allowing them to seed outbreaks elsewhere.
There are nearly 31,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in New York State as of this afternoon, roughly half of all confirmed cases in the United States. New York City has nearly 18,000, a higher number than all but six countries on Earth. Bosserts ready to go nuclear:
The feds may already be moving towards Bosserts position. At yesterdays briefing Deborah Birx recommended that anyone whos left New York in the past 14 days should self-quarantine at their new location just in case theyve brought COVID-19 with them. Theyve already seen outbreaks on Long Island which they believe were seeded by people traveling from the city. They must be considering the logical next step, especially with Trump complaining that the country needs to reopen for business soon.
Maybe thatll be the next stage of denialism. We closed the border with China so the problem is largely solved. We cordoned off New York City so the problem is largely solved. A cordon sanitaire of NYC will help slow down the national spread, at least. But as Bossert says, new hot spots are already developing: The trends in Atlanta and New Orleans are ominous.
There are reasons to think NYC will end up being Americas hottest hot spot, if not its only hot spot. Why? Density, for starters.
New York is both the countrys most populous city and its most densely populated. Vinetz said both the citys high density and the fact that it is densely populated across a large region could be exacerbating factors. Vinetz also cited the citys status as a hub for global travel as a factor that could be contributing to the outbreak there
Indeed, interviews with New York residents and officials suggested that both the New York lifestyle replete with shoulder-to-shoulder public transportation, frequent dining out because of the limits of apartment living, and reliance on crowded city parks for daily recreation as well as a certain stubbornness in curbing it may have contributed to New Yorks high infection rate.
Were used to the city being our living room, said Michael Hendrix, director of state and local policy at conservative think tank the Manhattan Institute. We have smaller living quarters; we live with roommates. We make this choice because New York City has so much to offer.
New York is also cooler this time of year than many southern states are, which *may* be conducive to contagion in this case. In some ways its a perfect petri dish. Oh, and it also has an imbecile for a mayor, per this tweet from as recently as March 2:
Lots of major metropolises in the Far East, like Hong Kong, also have high density but dont have morons in charge, so theyve been spared an outbreak of NYCs scale.
New Yorkers do have a weapon against the virus, though. Theyre using it, and theres some evidence that its working:
The governor cited Tuesday projections that showed a doubling of hospitalization numbers is expected to occur every 4.7 days, compared to a Sunday projection that had shown every two days.
Now, that is almost too good to be true, he said, adding that the data indicates about 15 percent of people who test positive need hospitalization.
This is everything, he added. Slowing the hospitalization rates coming into the hospitals are everything so the hospitals can deal with the rate of people coming in.
Social distancing may be flattening the curve already. Checking the Kinsa fever map, I see that this trend (in Brooklyn) looks similar in the four other boroughs of New York City:
Because it takes several days for coronavirus infections to develop, itll take time for that trend to show up in a reduced patient load in city hospitals. People who were infected eight days ago, when the fever rate was still highly atypical, may only be starting to feel the effects now; it might be several more days still before they need hospital care. But if the Kinsa data is reflecting a drop in coronavirus transmission, presumably well see hospital admissions start to slow down in, say, two weeks. Which is not to say theyll slow to normal rates, of course. Even today, although the rate of fever has dropped, its still atypically high.
Heres Scott Gottlieb talking about MASH units for the city.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: akadeblasio; andrewcuomo; billdeblasio; cordonsanitaire; coronavirus; newyork; newyorkcity; tombossert; wuhan
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As a Floridian, I want NYC LOCKED down! No one in. No one out. Too many of them come here. Only traffic allowed in/out of NYC is suppliers.
one more thing: make it permanent
posted on 03/25/2020 8:44:08 PM PDT
(Lock Her Up)
Long overdue to lock that cesspool off.
posted on 03/25/2020 8:46:59 PM PDT
(Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
The airports are still open - NYC is sheading virus all over the country. Shut it down now !
posted on 03/25/2020 8:47:26 PM PDT
(May you live in interesting times - Ancient Chinese Proverb)
posted on 03/25/2020 8:53:10 PM PDT
(Â“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
And Governor Cuomo has now DECREED (by what actual legal authority, I know not) that unless they are a part of an approved clinical trial, New Yorkers can no longer receive the highly promising 6-day course of the hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin drug regimen as treatment for Covid-19.
I wonder why Cuomo did that. Actually, Im pretty certain I know. He fears that its success will QUICKLY become manifest!
posted on 03/25/2020 8:59:39 PM PDT
by House Atreides
(It is not a HOAX but it IS A PRETEXT!)
I’ve a;ways thought of “Escape from New York” as an instruction manual! Build the wall!
posted on 03/25/2020 9:00:51 PM PDT
(What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
"Call me Snake"
posted on 03/25/2020 9:01:36 PM PDT
weren’t they gonna build a gigantic seawall around the entire city to stop the ocean “rise” from “climate change”? too bad they never did that because it could be used to seal off the entire city ...
posted on 03/25/2020 9:02:18 PM PDT
(Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
Do what they do in the movies, shut down the subways, els, tunnels, outgoing roads and bridges. I’ve seen it done in “The Taking of Pelham 1, 2, 3” (0n the other night), Batman movies, etc.
Yeah, DeBlasio is going to do that! Right! DeBlasion thinks “Subways” are places to get sub sandwiches.
NY State and City are both screwed. They are progressives and socialists who ironically depend greatly on the bubbles of the S&P500 and bond market (via taxes on a few dozen companies and oligarchs) to stay in power.
If those bubbles stay popped for very long, NY state and City government will face serious financial problems.
posted on 03/25/2020 9:14:16 PM PDT
That can’t be Constitutional, to lock people in like that. Oh wait, it’s Noo Yawk? Never mind, when can we start?
posted on 03/25/2020 9:35:22 PM PDT
by Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
It’s obvious that for whatever reason these people cannot control their own actions.
I do not know what it is, drug trade, prostitution, immigrants, religious, or whatever, it is at a point that this city, this state, needs to be blocked off from the rest of the country in order to stop a rapid uncontrolled spread throughout the nation.
posted on 03/25/2020 9:35:24 PM PDT
(Diversity is applied Marxism!)
Why isn’t the airport(s) shut down?
Same for S. California. imo
Successful therapy against Covid-19 virus from New York State:
Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko Board Certified Family Practitioner 501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950 845-238-0000
March 23, 2020
To all medical professionals around the world:
My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.
As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).
Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:
1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.
2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.
3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).
My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:
1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days
2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days
3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days
The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.
Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.
Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.
In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.
With much respect,
Dr. Zev Zelenko
cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff
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posted on 03/25/2020 10:06:49 PM PDT
To: House Atreides
"And Governor Cuomo has now DECREED (by what actual legal authority, I know not) that unless they are a part of an approved clinical trial, New Yorkers can no longer receive the highly promising 6-day course of the hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin drug regimen as treatment for Covid-19."
Charge him with the unlicensed practice of medicine.
posted on 03/25/2020 10:16:11 PM PDT
Protect the rest of the country from them so we can get back to normal lives.
posted on 03/25/2020 11:58:05 PM PDT
(Drain the Swamp)
Cordon Sanitaire is, whatever.
But Miami/FtL is basically a borough of NYC.
posted on 03/26/2020 12:22:06 AM PDT
(CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
Abutting Monroe County has barricaded its ONE highway in.
Visitors are directed to leave, hotels, parks and beaches shut down.
Medical staff members must have Monroe County addresses—NOT Miami-Dade addresses.
posted on 03/26/2020 1:35:41 AM PDT
by Does so
(Call it the CCP-virus...The Corona-virus dies in sunlight! But next spring's virus?)
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