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Can coronavirus spread through food or packaging?
Fox News ^ | 3/25/2020 | Brie Stimson

Posted on 03/25/2020 6:53:32 AM PDT by antidemoncrat

The virus also can’t live on imported food packaging, the FDA says, adding it could only survive on a surface for a short period of time, which, depending on the surface could be from a few hours to a few days.

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KEYWORDS: chinavirussurfaces; coronavirus; dsj02; foodpackaging
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To: RummyChick

If you are used to handling chicken like it is covered in Salmonella you should be “safe”.


41 posted on 03/25/2020 7:44:40 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: tomkat

True that (fighter jock) but I’ve flown Air Combat USA and constantly wiped out airline pilots because all they knew were what we call “martini turns” - he may have flown F102’s but did he really “fly” them; he never came across to me as aggressive.


42 posted on 03/25/2020 7:45:02 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: RummyChick
"...who is to say I cant inhale it..."

Well I looked at the nature of the virus itself to answer the question about aerosol transmission. I ain't gonna tell you not to be careful, now... When those infection patterns did not materialize, and when the features of the virus were described and understood, I say understood as if we could ever understand these things, I was able to relax about that danger.

The virology explains the epidemiology.

I again am not telling you what to do, I am telling you what I think about this germ. If you can afford to go all Howard Hughes on this, then OK do it, but I cannot and you really don't need to.

People are getting it from direct contact. So when you are opening these packages, keep washing your hands and surfaces and dont rub your nose or your eyes until you wash your hands again.

You can find this virus on the surface...

...of your HANDS! Handwashing is the way. That is THE way. Hand washing works. If we would only...(sigh)

43 posted on 03/25/2020 7:45:28 AM PDT by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: SMARTY

“If we bring home say chicken from the butcher, and put it in the freezer, will that neutralize the koodie?”

I expect it will freeze the cooties and let them survive until they’re thawed. I’d opt to nuke the cooties in a hot oven rather than freeze. (I may be wrong about all of this.)


44 posted on 03/25/2020 7:45:59 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Immigrants with tuberculosis and polio are welcome, but youÂ’d better be able to prove your dog is v)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Chlorinated Chicken! For some reason the Brits are opposed to it.


45 posted on 03/25/2020 7:46:24 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Good way to put it.

So do I.

I go through multiple utensils with dealing with chicken.

one and done..


46 posted on 03/25/2020 7:46:45 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Bigg Red

I use that vegetable wash called FIT

have no idea if it is scam or if it really works.


47 posted on 03/25/2020 7:50:06 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Robert A Cook PE
But it easily spreads

Sorry, you're getting called out for that.

Provide some citations for COVID-19 "easily spreading" on plastics.

48 posted on 03/25/2020 7:54:22 AM PDT by Fury
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To: antidemoncrat

Depends on the material. Fellow shoppers, checkout clerk, your kids, anybody who touches the package can transfer virus to it.

I’ve read a day or so survival on cardboard (pizza box for the take out folks), a few days on plastic, not so long on metal surfaces, a few hours.


49 posted on 03/25/2020 7:58:49 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: BDParrish
Yes it will survive frozen or cold. Because it is held together with lipids.

You're getting called out, too

Please provide a citation that COVID-19 survives (at infective levels) if it is frozen or cold.

50 posted on 03/25/2020 7:59:45 AM PDT by Fury
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To: brianr10

You missed a spot.


51 posted on 03/25/2020 8:01:44 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: MayflowerMadam; RummyChick; wastoute
"When it comes to chicken, I treat it like poison every time I cook it. Wash hands, Clorox the cutting board. Clorox/Lysol spray the counter tops. Utensils in the dishwasher."

You are the one!

This!

But I would add two more: Clean as you go. Wash hands and surfaces in-between each process. Easier for me to do everything on one prep surface and just keep cleaning that. I like having the kitchen clean and all the prep dishes done when I serve the meal.

52 posted on 03/25/2020 8:01:58 AM PDT by BDParrish ( Please correct me! I never learned anything from anybody who already agreed with me.)
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To: antidemoncrat

Not really - import process usually takes more time than the virus can be detected on packaging...also, being detectable and being viable for infection are two different things...”shelf life” is much shorter than detection life...


53 posted on 03/25/2020 8:02:46 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: SMARTY

Same here plus suspect the mailbox. Them little buggers are everywhere.

We had a steer slaughtered before the shut-down and I wonder about the butcher’s. It is remote, run by a farm family and they practice good hygiene. They say this crap can survive in the freezer indefinitely but so can other virus.

Everybody dies someday.


54 posted on 03/25/2020 8:05:13 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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To: BDParrish

“Clean as you go. Wash hands and surfaces in-between each process.”

Yup. I do all of that with chicken. Wash hands X10, I guess. And I’m so paranoid about chicken that I tend to overcook it, just to be safe.

I don’t totally clean the kitchen before a meal, though, as DH does the clean-up.


55 posted on 03/25/2020 8:05:16 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Immigrants with tuberculosis and polio are welcome, but youÂ’d better be able to prove your dog is v)
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To: antidemoncrat

“A short period of time...a few hours or a few days. “

Not contradictory. This means how long it lives varies. It might die in a few hours or live for several days.

However I believe we also heard that covid-19 on that cruise ship lived for 17 days.


56 posted on 03/25/2020 8:05:55 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: BDParrish

I don’t cook but i used to be a surgeon.


57 posted on 03/25/2020 8:06:49 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Sequoyah101

“It is remote, run by a farm family “

According to most reports, rural folk are the safest group, as they basically live the social distancing lifestyle. I think I wouldn’t be concerned about that.

I was wondering at what oven temperature the WuFlu cooties die.


58 posted on 03/25/2020 8:09:08 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Immigrants with tuberculosis and polio are welcome, but youÂ’d better be able to prove your dog is v)
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To: antidemoncrat

Does anybody know if there is a website that shows how long the virus “lives” on different surfaces?


59 posted on 03/25/2020 8:11:50 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: antidemoncrat

Oh, I see, we were all supposed to be deathly afraid of each other, and now we are supposed to become deathly afraid of the food we buy!!!!

If this is a true concern, then the exact same concern would apply to the viruses from which folks obtain the seasonal flu, and if true it has always been true. But now, suddenly, its a concern that everyone should have a new fear about!!!!

Someone needs to yell BASTA!!!! to the insanity.


60 posted on 03/25/2020 8:13:53 AM PDT by Wuli
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