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Sorry to link to a paywall you may be able to Google around it. The author's logic leads them to Italy with a fatality rate of 0.06% and the US at 0.01%. This explains clearly the importance of understanding and defining the denominator.
1 posted on 03/24/2020 6:40:01 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Twitter and Facebook will need to ban the WSJ


2 posted on 03/24/2020 6:41:30 PM PDT by ARW
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Not this Sh1t again. /s


4 posted on 03/24/2020 6:43:09 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

You don’t say.


5 posted on 03/24/2020 6:43:11 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Be still, and know that I am God...Psalm 46:10)
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The death rate is lower in certain countries: South Korea, Germany, and the USA for example. On the other hand there are other countries …
7 posted on 03/24/2020 6:46:35 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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What matters more than the fatality rate is the number of critically ill at a given time - is that too many for the hospitals too manage?

NYC is getting close to that point.


9 posted on 03/24/2020 6:48:09 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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The CDC says 23,000 Americans have died from the flu so far in the 2019-20 season. That’s not on the “pandemic” roster.


12 posted on 03/24/2020 6:52:07 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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The experts say we’re all gonna die within 11.6 years if we don’t conquer climate change next week, so what the hell. Party like there’s no tomorrow.


13 posted on 03/24/2020 6:52:25 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Shutting down for the sniffles....what a nation of wusses.


16 posted on 03/24/2020 6:54:01 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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It took two people two months to state the obvious in the WSJ?


19 posted on 03/24/2020 6:55:52 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

It is neither really deadly nor highly contagious.


21 posted on 03/24/2020 6:56:30 PM PDT by youngidiot (The left uses book publishing companies to launder large amounts of cash to other leftist.)
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Hence Johns Hopkins sudden jettisoning of counting the recovered on the same day Trump sets a target date of 16 April. Coincidence???


22 posted on 03/24/2020 6:56:36 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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But there's little evidence to confirm that premise

Hence the "abundance of caution" style of panic. We don't know which way this contagion will eventually play out. Either way, it will provide a lesson.

23 posted on 03/24/2020 6:57:01 PM PDT by Cboldt
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35,000 die on the highways every year. We must shut down the highways.


27 posted on 03/24/2020 6:59:50 PM PDT by Voltage
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FYI...Washington State as of 3/24...92% of deaths are 60+

County Posi/Conf Cases Deaths
Adams 1 0
Benton 12 2
Chelan 6 0
Clallam 4 0
Clark 16 4
Columbia 1 0
Cowlitz 3 0
Douglas 2 0
Franklin 7 0
Grant 27 1
Grays Harbor 1 0
Island 29 1
Jefferson 8 0
King 1277 94
Kitsap 20 0
Kittitas 18 0
Klickitat 6 0
Lewis 2 0
Lincoln 1 0
Mason 2 0
Pierce 138 1
San Juan1 0
Skagit 48 1
Snohomish614 16
Spokane 33 0
Stevens 1 0
Thurston14 0
Walla Walla2 0
Whatcom 64 2
Whitman 2 0
Yakima 44 1
Unassigned 65
Total 2469 123


29 posted on 03/24/2020 7:00:28 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Trump is as good a dictator as he is a racist.....)
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Successful therapy against Covid-19 virus from New York State:

Dr. Vladimir (Zev) Zelenko

Board Certified Family Practitioner

501 Rt 208, Monroe, NY 10950

845-238-0000

March 23, 2020

To all medical professionals around the world:

My name is Dr. Zev Zelenko and I practice medicine in Monroe, NY. For the last 16 years, I have cared for approximately 75% of the adult population of Kiryas Joel, which is a very close knit community of approximately 35,000 people in which the infection spread rapidly and unchecked prior to the imposition of social distancing.

As of today my team has tested approximately 200 people from this community for Covid-19, and 65% of the results have been positive. If extrapolated to the entire community, that means more than 20,000 people are infected at the present time. Of this group, I estimate that there are 1500 patients who are in the high-risk category (i.e. >60, immunocompromised, comorbidities, etc).

Given the urgency of the situation, I developed the following treatment protocol in the pre-hospital setting and have seen only positive results:

1. Any patient with shortness of breath regardless of age is treated.

2. Any patient in the high-risk category even with just mild symptoms is treated.

3. Young, healthy and low risk patients even with symptoms are not treated (unless their circumstances change and they fall into category 1 or 2).

My out-patient treatment regimen is as follows:

1. Hydroxychloroquine 200mg twice a day for 5 days

2. Azithromycin 500mg once a day for 5 days

3. Zinc sulfate 220mg once a day for 5 days

The rationale for my treatment plan is as follows. I combined the data available from China and South Korea with the recent study published from France (sites available on request). We know that hydroxychloroquine helps Zinc enter the cell. We know that Zinc slows viral replication within the cell. Regarding the use of azithromycin, I postulate it prevents secondary bacterial infections. These three drugs are well known and usually well tolerated, hence the risk to the patient is low.

Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.

In sum, my urgent recommendation is to initiate treatment in the outpatient setting as soon as possible in accordance with the above. Based on my direct experience, it prevents acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), prevents the need for hospitalization and saves lives.

With much respect,

Dr. Zev Zelenko

cc: President Donald J. Trump; Mr. Mark Meadows, Chief of Staff

Video at Link

https://matzav.com/watch-kiryas-yoel-dr-zev-zelenko-to-trump-im-seeing-success-with-your-approved-drug/?fbclid=IwAR0gVHAW9kWF-JLRHjzQx9bSFx6jlRgTn9_PpAmaiykXhsVqTE7wJrddS4g


30 posted on 03/24/2020 7:00:53 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obam_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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When you divide deaths only by people sick enough to get tested, that’s what you get. This whole world has gone insane.


50 posted on 03/24/2020 8:00:32 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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Stick around, hindsight will be 20/20


59 posted on 03/24/2020 8:25:13 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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I like the way you think and I need a drink as well after being duped over this hysteria.


61 posted on 03/24/2020 8:28:55 PM PDT by gawatchman
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Not. It also depends on how many people actually catch CV19. If 100 million Americans catch it and half of those show no symptoms and are never diagnosed with it, while a million die of it, that looks like a 2% death rate based on the diagnosed total, but is really only 1% if you count the likely 50 million who were never diagnosed because they never showed symptoms.

Now change the 100 million Americans to 200 million who catch it, but this time make the symptomless percentage 75% instead of 50%, while keeping the total number of known infected at 50 million and the total dead still at one million. The proportion of known infected to dead is still 2%. But the actual proportion of dead to total infected, both diagnosed with symptoms and undiagnosed without symptoms, goes down to 0.5% of the 200 million.

Either way one million die of CV19. Now tell the dead they should be happy because the death rate is lower if there are more Americans who got CV19 but never showed symptoms.

What counts is how many Americans will die or be crippled because of this d***ed Chinese Virus. We don't know because we don't know for sure what the proportion of asymptomatic to symptomatic victims is in America. We can't know unless close to the entire population of a statistically valid area is tested. That just won't happen in America because only people who volunteer can be tested.

Plus there is the detail that a really quick, as well as accurate, test for the Chinese Virus is required, and there aren't any yet. Only when such a test is widely available can we even think of determining what the ratio of asymptomatic to symptomatic victims is, and then that will have to be done in some foreign country. Israel and South Korea come to mind.

Right now there is only ONE known instance in which a possibly statistically valid test of everyone in a given area was performed, and that was of all the passengers and crew on the Diamond Princess cruise ship quarantined in Japan last month. There were 305 known victims when all the untested remainder were tested, and produced about another 400 asymptomatic victims. Since then some of the latter group have developed symptoms.

It seems safe to assume from the Diamond Princess example that there are probably at least as many asymptomatic victims of the Chinese Virus as there are victims who show symptoms. It might be more than that, but we won't know until there is both a really quick but accurate test, and it can be performed in a controlled experiment on a larger population sample. That is at least a month off, and perhaps two months off.

70 posted on 03/24/2020 8:50:41 PM PDT by Thud
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It’s a pretty vague, and poorly written, article. Lots of speculation that just ends up concluding what we already knew: the deaths are known with certainty, but the number infected is not known, but is certainly larger than the number testing positive, perhaps much larger.


75 posted on 03/24/2020 9:09:55 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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