Posted on 03/22/2020 8:09:36 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
Yes more propaganda
Impeach!
Hindsight is always 20/20. But seems to me that it didn’t help much for the H1N1 virus that killed 12,000 Americans and over 200,00 worldwide. So this may have been the reason it was eliminated. In fact, CDC was totally unprepared for this viral event, just as they were for the H1N1 virus which had been with us for many decades.
Agreed, but we know it will happen again. I’m sick of all of them period. Their elected leaders are all criminals and almost of all of their voters are ignorant fools. A bad combination of criminality and stupidity. Yup. That’s the American Democrat Party!
It’s amazing, Joe Biden called Trump xenophobia when he closed China to the USA. Now he is going to TV saying Trump didn’t do enough things like that.
#15. Great points but remember this is REUTERS which has a very virulent anti-American group of writers based in Europe and Asia, plus a few in the U.S.
In the old days, Reuters and Agence Presse Francaise were viewed as very reliable sources of foreign news because they had their correspondents all over the world and they had years of experience in the regions they covered.
Today I wouldn’t trust some Reuters reporters to wipe my cat’s butt.
A Reuters news article.
PURE BULL$HIT!
do they speak of this Linda Quick?
seems to me she got bigly promoted:
https://www.cdc.gov/globalhealth/healthprotection/organization/quick.htm
Reuters has been reduced to high school sophomores posing as journalists, if not in years, in knowledge.
JMHO.
The American disease expert, a medical epidemiologist embedded in China’s disease control agency, left her post in July, according to four sources with knowledge of the issue. Hmmm....(continue reading)
“It was heartbreaking to watch,” said Bao-Ping Zhu, a Chinese American who served in that role, which was funded by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, between 2007 and 2011. “If someone had been there, public health officials and governments across the world could have moved much faster.” ( insert Emotional string-here)
Zhu and the other sources said the American expert, Dr. Linda Quick, was a trainer of Chinese field epidemiologists who were deployed to the epicenter of outbreaks to help track, investigate and contain diseases. As an American CDC employee, they said, Quick was in an ideal position to be the eyes and ears on the ground for the United States and other countries on the coronavirus outbreak, and might have alerted them to the growing threat weeks earlier. (Maybe, maybe not....)
No other foreign disease experts were embedded to lead the program after Quick left in July, according to the sources. Zhu said an embedded expert can often get word of outbreaks early, after forming close relationships with Chinese counterparts. (So, the rest of the world abandoned this place as well?)
Zhu and the other sources said Quick could have provided real-time information to U.S. and other officials around the world during the first weeks of the outbreak, when they said the Chinese government tamped down on the release of information and provided erroneous assessments. (Seems like China didn't want anyone to find At All)
Quick left amid a bitter U.S. trade dispute with China when she learned her federally funded post, officially known as resident adviser to the U.S. Field Epidemiology Training Program in China, would be discontinued as of September, the sources said. (She was a Protester? Don't think so – Continue reading)
In a statement to Reuters, the U.S. CDC said the elimination of the adviser position did not hinder Washington’s ability to get information and “had absolutely nothing to do with CDC not learning of cases in China earlier.”
The agency said its decision not to have a resident adviser “started well before last summer and was due to China’s excellent technical capability and maturity of the program.” (Well, I don't know that that is true)
“CDC has had a 30-year partnership with China CDC and close collaboration,” the statement said. “We had the right staff to engage China and ability to provide technical assistance were it requested.”
The CDC would not make Quick, who still works for the agency, available for comment. (What? No Way. She still works for the CDC? (Gosh, they opened the article making it sound like she quit)
One disease expert told Reuters he was skeptical that the U.S. resident adviser would have been able to get earlier or better information to the Trump administration, given the Chinese government’s suppression of information.
“In the end, based on circumstances in China, it probably wouldn’t have had made a big difference,” Scott McNabb, who was a CDC epidemiologist for 20 years and is now a research professor at Emory University. “The problem was how the Chinese handled it. What should have changed was the Chinese should have acknowledged it earlier and didn’t.”
ALERT FROM CHINA’S CDC
Alex Azar, secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS)said Friday that his agency learned of the coronavirus in early January, based on Redfield’s conversations with “Chinese colleagues.”
Redfield learned that “this looks to be a novel coronavirus” from Dr. Gao Fu, the head of the China CDC, according to an HHS administration official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “Dr. Redfield always talked to Dr. Gao,” the official said.
HHS and CDC did not make Azar or Redfield available for comment.
Zhu and other sources said U.S. leaders should not have been relying on the China CDC director for alerts and updates. In general, they said, officials in China downplayed the severity of the outbreak in the early weeks and did not acknowledge evidence of person-to-person transmission until Jan. 20.
After the epidemic exploded and China had imposed strict quarantines, Trump administration officials complained that the Chinese had censored information about the outbreak and that the United States had been unable to get American disease experts into the country to help contain the spread.
On Feb. 25, the first day the CDC told the American public to prepare for an outbreak at home, U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo accused China of mishandling the epidemic through its “censorship” of medical professionals and media.
Relations between the two countries have deteriorated since then, as Trump has labeled the coronavirus the “Chinese virus” - a description the Chinese have condemned as stigmatizing. (Yeah well, if you had been more honest and open then it would be a different matter. So, Fook Yew)
Last week, the Chinese government announced that Americans from three U.S. news organizations, The New York Times, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal, would be expelled from China. (Seems like “Trust” is a disposable commodity for China)
ONCE ‘FRIENDS,’ NOW RIVALS (Friends? When?)
The decision to eliminate Quick’s job came as the CDC has scaled back the number of U.S. staffers in China over the last two years, the sources told Reuters. “We had already withdrawn many technical public health experts,” the same expert said.
The CDC, however, disputed that staffing was a problem or that its information had been limited by the move. “It was not the staffing shortage that limited our ability” it said.
The U.S. CDC team in Beijing now includes three American citizens in permanent roles, an additional American who is temporary and around 10 Chinese nationals, the agency said. Of the Americans, one is an influenza expert with expertise in respiratory disease. Coronavirus is not influenza, though it is a respiratory disease.
The CDC team, aside from Quick, was housed at U.S. Embassy facilities. No American CDC staffer besides Quick was embedded with China’s disease control agency, the sources said.
China in recent weeks has reported a dramatic slowdown in new cases, the result of drastic containment measures including the lockdown of Hubei province, home to 60 million people.
Nevertheless, the infectious disease experts who spoke with Reuters said, the United States could use people like Quick with contacts on the ground, especially if fears of a second wave of infections materializes.
Thomas R. Frieden, a former director of the CDC, said that if the U.S. resident adviser had still been in China, “it is possible that we would know more today about how this coronavirus is spreading and what works best to stop it.” (Sure, it's possible and it's also possible China wouldn't want the world to know about this....Oh, wait...)
Dr. George Conway, a medical epidemiologist who knows Quick and had served as resident advisor between 2012 and 2015, said funding for the position had been tenuous for years because of a perennial debate among U.S health officials over whether China should be paying for funding its own training program. (The position wasn't a stable one to begin with....okay and I don't like the guy for his name only)
We had an exercise the year she was fired, did she participate in it, and if so, was her performance during the exercise sub par?
You don’t get fired for being competent.
She could have ended up dead as well since the Chinese government decided they didn’t want to admit they had a problem.
I looked through my ping list and nully pinged me to an article on Jan. 1 titled something like “WHO investigates new SARS-Like outbreak in China.” I didn’t read the article at the time. It took me until Jan. 20th to read anything about it. Nully pinged perhaps 10 articles about it between the 1st and the 20th.
Another poster (Chinese?) said they had seen similar type articles in mid December.
Has anyone noticed this story? This guy worked in Wuhan too in a different field and was doing some secretive things for the Chinese, essentially an unregistered foreign agent, that gave them an access point to US research labs without the US knowing.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00291-2
So if she believed her position was so important and it wasn’t due to be closed until September, why didn’t she remain in it as long as she could rather than bail in July for a different CDC position? And why would her former Chinese colleagues completely lose contact with her if their relationship was that close? Could it be their relationship was not close at all and they wouldn’t have confided in her anyway since the Chinese government is a one way pit for information, always taking it in, but never opening up to give it out?
Ah, another freeper posted the reason that she left early- she was apparently promoted. Oh brother.
This deep state hit piece is still the top story on the Reuters website. Look for this to seep into the daily press narrative.
Yes, it’s part of the effort to recruit Cuomo to run for office because he, unlike Trump, is willing to claim ‘responsibility.’ Unsaid is that the press will never demand responsibility of him, they just want him to run.
I did notice that. He is one of many.
Just like Brat Pitt in World War Z
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