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California Dreaming? Trump Now Reportedly Mulling Over A National Shutdown; Update: Stafford Act Authorizes?
Hotair ^ | 03/20/2020 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/20/2020 8:54:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: crz
I happened to be watching when Newsom was issuing his proclamation.

At one point he called California a "nation state" the closed captioning dropped nation, and reported he said only "state"

Make of that what you will...

41 posted on 03/20/2020 9:47:58 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

Time will tell...I agree them coon-asses might have a different point of view though - have known many over the years and have a few i call friends today...


42 posted on 03/20/2020 9:51:01 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have two daughters on their way home from France right now. I would hate to see them stranded if air travel is grounded.


43 posted on 03/20/2020 9:54:16 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Truth29

I know. I’m madder at the President than I have been since he seemed bump stocks to be machine guns. It’s tyranny. Straight up.


44 posted on 03/20/2020 10:02:05 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitznd)
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To: bgill

Some of us won’t lay down and take it luke the sheep in the cities will.


45 posted on 03/20/2020 10:03:04 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitznd)
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To: Truth29

If Trump announces a national shutdown then the stock market will crash.


46 posted on 03/20/2020 10:03:57 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: SeekAndFind

Damned if he does. Damned if he doesn’t.


47 posted on 03/20/2020 10:04:28 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: SeekAndFind

The feds have PLENTY of options for ‘helping to encourage’ governors and others to go along with a full lockdown, simply due to the size of the federal budget. So, for starters, they could threaten to withhold money to ‘the schools’, and also highway money. The list is practically endless, although it does require both Congressional support and support of the Courts - but I don’t see either being a problem here.


48 posted on 03/20/2020 10:12:55 AM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: bgill

“A national shut down should have happened 3 weeks ago along with borders and airports. We’d already have it under control if the rest of the world had done the same. Piddly little areas here and there aren’t going to do much in the long run.”

Well, that will make you a HERO of this thread!


49 posted on 03/20/2020 10:14:44 AM PDT by BobL (If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
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To: null and void

I think the definition of flubro has changed. I was sick of being called a flubro for saying the whole thing is overblown. It sounds like flubro’s word origin involved it having the opposite definition at one time, based on your comment.

So to summarize - a flubro realizes this is overblown from a medical/death perspective. A flubro can, however, be worried about government overreach at this time.


50 posted on 03/20/2020 10:15:04 AM PDT by impimp
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To: SeekAndFind
I asked the Deputy Sheriff of my county if something like this would actually be enforced. He laughed and said “Not a chance, at least not in this county.” He basically went on to explain that with 18 officers for a county with 20,000 residents he and his department would not have anywhere near the resources to even begin stopping and questioning anybody out to make sure they were on “legitimate business” and not just out cruising around or visiting friends. He also said that quite frankly he's not going to put his officers in danger over this, (this is rural West Virginia after all and most of the “good ‘ol boys” are armed better than the police and don't take too kindly to being questioned about what they are doing.)
51 posted on 03/20/2020 10:37:32 AM PDT by apillar
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To: SeekAndFind
Cuomo’s point — an excellent one — is that lockdowns will fuel “fear and panic,” and that those are worse than the coronavirus spread for community peace.

This is rich. Cuomo's hair has been on fire for at least a couple of weeks, which absolutely has created panic in a certain sector of the population (which shall go unnamed here).

52 posted on 03/20/2020 10:41:58 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Q = Quidam = Fraud.)
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To: impimp
A FluBro is someone who insists, "it's just the flu, bro!"

They have the obdurate ability to say that China is overreacting, South Korea is overreacting, Japan is overreacting, Singapore is overreacting, [country xxxx] is overreacting, and any anyone who isn't totally focused on how much worse this season's regular flu is, or how many more die in traffic accidents, of of abortions, or drowning, or malaria, or ______, is a total idiot, and we should do absolutely nothing about the Wuhan virus except let it scythe through our country unimpeded.

It would be good for the economy to get rid of the elderly useless eaters, after all.

They also believe that all these above named countries, and so many more, are in a vast planetary conspiracy and are destroying their own economies, just to get rid of the bad orange man!

53 posted on 03/20/2020 10:45:09 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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They could take a cruise...

Make it a two week cruise, and count that as the quarantine?

Only half kidding.

Something like this might save the cruise industry? A luxury passage, and no quarantine upon arrival? hmmm...


54 posted on 03/20/2020 10:48:46 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: null and void

I like your definition - I am a proud flubro.

I know a stunted economy will kill more people than this virus. I just won’t be able to name the victims - those who, for example, die because medical advances aren’t made due to the economy getting weaker.

So are you a proud flubro or not?


55 posted on 03/20/2020 10:50:16 AM PDT by impimp
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To: impimp
Nope, I have never thought that a corona virus deliberately engineered to have HIV and Ebola surface proteins was anywhere near as benign as just the flu.

Since China was working on this virus before it escaped they, of all people, knew just how deadly it was.

They TOTALLY freaked out.

China demolished their economy, welded the residents into their high rise apartment buildings, and obliterated their future ability to get control of all the war materials manufacturing on Earth.

Although I assume Haaavaaad MBAs will still think shipping all manufacturing to China will make this quarter's shareholder look good...

56 posted on 03/20/2020 11:02:54 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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To: BobL

It’ll never happen. But we all discussed this way back. Just like stopping planes and ships were discussed way back didn’t happen. Just like shutting down the spring break partiers didn’t happen. Peopled died. People will still be dying of CV this time next year because it’ll keep circling the globe.


57 posted on 03/20/2020 12:31:23 PM PDT by bgill (Idiots. CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Sources”...

yeah right, another balloon from the opposition testing the waters and generating blog hits...


58 posted on 03/20/2020 1:46:30 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: null and void

The reaction on this board has soured me.

This isn’t a game. This isn’t politics. This isn’t about crashing the stock market (which for all intents and purposes, is crashed).

We are trying to see if there is a possibility what we call civilization and survive a plague. Right now I am betting the under. Decades of just in time and grasshopper has a population that goes to the beach when begged to stay home.That loots grocery stores when given special shopping hours (the “elderly and at risk” shopping hours at local stores resulted in those same elderly selling TP and hamburger out of the back of the car).

Hell, I am half convinced by this time next week we will not have functional plumbing in major cities.

But it is all a plot to get rid of orangeman, who just had his highest approval rating in a while.


59 posted on 03/20/2020 2:35:08 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian.)
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To: redgolum

“Hell, I am half convinced by this time next week we will not have functional plumbing in major cities”

...the “I.just pull crap out of my ass without thinking before posting, comment of the day


60 posted on 03/20/2020 2:50:28 PM PDT by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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