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'Crimson Contagion': Trump administration ran pandemic simulation months before coronavirus hit
washington examiner ^ | 3/19/2020 | Tim Pearce

Posted on 03/19/2020 8:27:35 PM PDT by bitt

The Trump administration simulated the ability of the United States to handle a flulike pandemic months before the coronavirus turned the scenario into a reality.

The Health and Human Services Department led the exercise, known as the "Crimson Contagion," last year in conjunction with dozens of states and federal agencies, according to the New York Times. HHS also invited charitable groups, insurance companies, and major hospitals to take part in the effort.

Former Air Force physician Robert Kadlec, who has studied biodefense issues for decades, led the exercise, which imagined a contagious disease that originated in China and spread globally after nearly three dozen tourists were infected and returned home. The hypothetical outbreak spread quickly through the U.S. after an infected person attended a concert packed with thousands of others.

The exercise, which took place from January to August of last year, highlighted some of the problems that the federal government is struggling to handle now, such as insufficient hospital space and medical supplies, as well as confusion between federal agencies and between states and the federal government.

Trump has defended the federal government’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, saying on Thursday that his administration has handled the crisis well considering “nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion. Nobody has ever seen anything like this before.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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1 posted on 03/19/2020 8:27:35 PM PDT by bitt
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2 posted on 03/19/2020 8:27:48 PM PDT by bitt (forget the electric chair..we're gonna need electric bleachers!)
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Things can’t be all that bad if we have all this time for finger pointing.


3 posted on 03/19/2020 8:29:17 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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So? In the world of international travel and emerging pathogens I would expect such drills.


4 posted on 03/19/2020 8:30:01 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: bitt

Pandemic flu simulations and training of stakeholder groups has been going on for over a decade.

We would be in worse shape without without it.


5 posted on 03/19/2020 8:30:40 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: bitt

The are simulator games on this topic that anyone can buy...


6 posted on 03/19/2020 8:31:16 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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Those types of simulation exercises are run at least once a year. A lot of states, localities run similar mass casualty exercises.


7 posted on 03/19/2020 8:33:19 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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Trump has defended the federal government’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, saying on Thursday that his administration has handled the crisis well considering “nobody knew there would be a pandemic or epidemic of this proportion. Nobody has ever seen anything like this before.”

The Wash Examiner thinks that this is a gotcha line.

8 posted on 03/19/2020 8:34:43 PM PDT by FreeReign
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In emergency management we ALWAYS drilled with a scenario that was 5-10 times worse than we really expected.

Hopefully this is NOT one of those worse-case worst-case events.

Personally I think it will run its course in a reasonable time if everyone relaxes just a bit


9 posted on 03/19/2020 8:36:35 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (January 20, 2017, High Noon. The end of an error.)
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While such practice drills are often overdone make work exercises for redundant civil servants , they can occasionally prove quite useful. As , it appears,. This drill may have been


10 posted on 03/19/2020 8:38:03 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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The articles goes on to say, "Kirchhoff’s report led to the creation of a National Security Council directorate to focus strictly on biosecurity and health issues in the case of a pandemic. In 2018, Trump and then-national security adviser John Bolton eliminated the directorate."

It is my understanding that is absolutely false and is fake news.

By the way, exercises like this are never like the real thing. They are models, and they can help identify some short-comings, but will always lack detail because the only way to get detail is from the real thing. Think chaos theory.

11 posted on 03/19/2020 8:43:09 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (It's official! I'm nominated for the 2020 Mr. Hyperbole and Sarcasm Award.)
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How can this be? I thought Trump cut all funding for the pandemic office.
The media can’t keep their lies straight.


12 posted on 03/19/2020 8:43:32 PM PDT by nbenyo
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Isn’t that their job? Can’t win with these guys, but I knew that.


13 posted on 03/19/2020 8:49:55 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant.)
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By the way, exercises like this are never like the real thing. They are models, and they can help identify some short-comings, but will always lack detail because the only way to get detail is from the real thing. Think chaos theory.
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As someone who has participated in a number of similar exercises (Continuity of Operations) they frequently are little more than filling in forms with standard boilerplate.


14 posted on 03/19/2020 8:49:58 PM PDT by House Atreides (No, it is NOT THE FLU but it sure as hell is NOT THE SPANISH FLU or BLACK DEATH. No Panic!)
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To: bitt

Going back to 2004, the Influenza A virus subtype H5N1, the “perfect pandemic” terrified the world and national health agencies. Early scientific estimates from the WHO of mortality went as high as 1 billion people, which was overruled by their political leaders.

Even though almost every nation, including North Korea, was on board to fight it, the effort was horribly disorganized. Only by sheer luck was the “thermonuclear flu” avoided, at least for a time.

Then when the H1N1 influenza became a “killer flu” and hit Ukraine, it again rattled all the medical cages about how incapable we were to deal with it.

Similar concerns came about because of the SARS and MERS and ebola outbreaks.

This is why behind the scenes our public health system has been in overdrive to plan for the next pandemic.

This is not to say they or anyone else schemed to cause such a disaster, but at some point they figured that a natural epidemic would happen, so what better opportunity to have a national and international “dress rehearsal” for the real thing?

Nothing nefarious in it at all, but it is not something that can be done at a smaller scale. The entire nation and world have to come along just to see that we can do it.


15 posted on 03/19/2020 9:03:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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War Gaming, so what?

IMPEACH TRUMP! (again) /s


16 posted on 03/19/2020 9:06:28 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: lightman

“Pandemic flu simulations and training of stakeholder groups has been going on for over a decade.”

Yep. I participated in several in the mid 2000s.

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17 posted on 03/19/2020 9:09:29 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Military run nuclear scenarios too but that doesn’t mean they know one it coming. My husband’s job was to look out 5 yrs to see what threat scenario are likely. People study these things to think outside the box.
18 posted on 03/19/2020 9:11:19 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: lastchance

With hindsight of SARS, Ebola and MERS, it would be stupid to not run simulations and plan for yet another corona visitation.


19 posted on 03/19/2020 9:14:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: bitt

Schools have “active shooter” drills/training does that mean one of schools is planning to have such a real event? No!


20 posted on 03/19/2020 9:15:45 PM PDT by madison10
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