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The Diamond Princess, a floating Chinese Virus palace, provides suggestive data
American Thinker ^ | March 19, 2020 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 03/19/2020 6:24:48 AM PDT by artichokegrower

What’s frightening about the Chinese Virus is the overwhelming amount of inconclusive data. We’re inundated with media speculation and hyperventilation, Chinese disinformation, and data that changes daily thanks to the treatment and quarantine initiatives governments are trying around the world.

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As you might imagine, before they knew it was a problem, the epidemic raged on the ship, with infected crew members cooking and cleaning for the guests, people all eating together, close living quarters, lots of social interaction, and a generally older population. Seems like a perfect situation for an overwhelming majority of the passengers to become infected. And despite that, some 83% (82.7% – 83.9%) of the passengers never got the disease at all … why?


So in the floating petri dish the Diamond Princess 84% of the passengers and crew did not get the coronavirus. Of the 26% who got the disease 49% showed no symptoms. Of those who showed symptoms two elderly individuals died. Is this a big enough of an issue to shut down the United States and destroy its economy?

1 posted on 03/19/2020 6:24:48 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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Is this a big enough of an issue to shut down the United States and destroy its economy?

If we rename it to the CNN Virus, then it all makes sense.


2 posted on 03/19/2020 6:31:16 AM PDT by eyeamok
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If this viral outbreak is as serious and broadly threatening as it is being made out to be, I’d say it would be criminally negligent NOT to carry out a simple measure like shutting down the NYC subway system. The place is an open toilet that is a breeding ground for every pathogen known to mankind.

The failure to take a basic precautionary step like this makes me believe there’s more to this hysteria than meets the eye. There may be some kind of “genetic predestination” at work here.

3 posted on 03/19/2020 6:32:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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And if it renders a significant portion of the population infertile (as is being studied) would that warrant this reaction?

Or if Intelligence knows it is a bioweapon? And has the potential to mutate to something worse?

Can you accept that world leaders might know more than you do about the subject

Are they over reacting?? Who knows at this point.

Trump is at War. You are just going to have to trust that he will do the right thing..

They have to stem the flow while they find the cure and get more medical equipment or the health system will collapse

You are playing Wuhan roulette with your life..you might be a super spreader and never feel a thing...OR..you might end up with this
https://nypost.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-patient-on-hellish-ordeal-i-was-screaming-for-mercy-and-praying-to-god/


4 posted on 03/19/2020 6:34:37 AM PDT by RummyChick
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“84% of the passengers and crew did not get the coronavirus. Of the 26% who got the disease”

Here they are commenting on lack of numbers and 84% + 26% does not equal 100%. Must have been the stowaways.


5 posted on 03/19/2020 6:41:34 AM PDT by Quick Shot
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You can start with the studies looking at X and Y chromosome suggesting that men are more predisposed.

Yes, women get it.

The next question is did they immediately take an ibuprofen for the aches like the UK woman who had a hard time with the virus.

Then you have to look at the strains people are getting

So much is unknown on this with so many factors that play into it.

They just dont know.

Do people with certain hemoglobin disorders become more susceptible as Ace Inhibitors function in a certain way with hemoglobin. We know that people with high blood pressure are at risk for this Virus.

I have a jacked up hemoglobin system thought to have evolved due to malaria...and they are using anti malaria drugs to treat Wuhan

They definitely need to be looking at how hemoglobin disorders interplay with this virus.


6 posted on 03/19/2020 6:47:00 AM PDT by RummyChick
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My bad. I’m a farmer not a mathematician. Anyhow two deaths out of 3,000 equals 0.0006%.


7 posted on 03/19/2020 6:48:26 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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So in the floating petri dish the Diamond Princess 84% of the passengers and crew did not get the coronavirus. Of the 26% who got the disease 49% showed no symptoms. Of those who showed symptoms two elderly individuals died. Is this a big enough of an issue to shut down the United States and destroy its economy?

No, but the panic is now proceeding of its own inertia, and will carry on until it finds a natural end. God help us all.

8 posted on 03/19/2020 6:52:03 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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And despite that, some 83% (82.7% – 83.9%) of the passengers never got the disease at all … why?

A constant and uninterrupted toilet paper supply.

9 posted on 03/19/2020 6:54:02 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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No, 2 deaths out of 3000 is .066%.

As a quick check, 1 out of 1000 is 0.1%; 1 out of 100 is 1%.


10 posted on 03/19/2020 6:54:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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I’m a member of “Cruise Critic” where you can read reviews by passengers of specific ships. I was curious about what passengers on Diamond had written during this time. Apparently, the site has stopped posting all reviews of Diamond at the end of December.


11 posted on 03/19/2020 6:55:12 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow; it empties today of its strength" - Corrie ten Boom)
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Thank you. Best piece i have seen on this yet.


12 posted on 03/19/2020 6:57:51 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Congress is not made up of leaders however they are representatives of their voters.)
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The Diamond Princess, a floating Chinese Virus palace, provides suggestive data

These stats are misleading - I suspect there was very little interaction among the thousands on board before the quarantine, and after everyone was confined to their cabin, almost none (even if passengers violated the order).

13 posted on 03/19/2020 6:58:58 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
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I see where the Diamond Process ended up with OVER 700 inflections, several times more than than the 153 reported in the article.
Maybe they used early numbers.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-diamond-princess-cruise-ship-coronavirus-quarantine-went-wrong-2020-2?op=1


14 posted on 03/19/2020 7:08:42 AM PDT by Swirl
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100% - 84% = 16%

(a sure sign of having contracted COVID-19 is the deterioration of Basic Math skills...)

/S

;-)


15 posted on 03/19/2020 7:09:41 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( Experience is the best teacher, but if you can accept it 2nd hand, the tuition is less!)
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Central heating, air and at least initially, group dining.

The virtual definition of a “petri dish”.


16 posted on 03/19/2020 7:09:58 AM PDT by traderrob6
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Cruise ships are Petri Dishes; never been on one, never will.


17 posted on 03/19/2020 7:23:04 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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0.067%. Divide then multiply by 100 to get the percent.


18 posted on 03/19/2020 7:26:44 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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Anyone who thinks the MSM has lost its power is lying to themselves. The DNC/MSM alliance can destroy the economy especially in an election year if they have the right ammo.
Trump tried to keep this in perspective and it became obvious it would doom him in Novenber.


19 posted on 03/19/2020 7:28:02 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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a sure sign of having contracted COVID-19 is the deterioration of Basic Math skills.

Well that and being edumicated in New Math in a public skrul...

20 posted on 03/19/2020 7:29:53 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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