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In medicine, comorbidity is the presence of one or more additional conditions co-occurring with a primary condition.

Example: Someone with stage 3 or 4 cancer who then also gets the coronavirus COVID-19.

The official death toll from coronavirus in Italy is: 2,503

The Italian Higher Institute of Health shows that the ACTUAL death toll in Italy from COVID-19 if you remove comorbidity is: 2 people.

The link to the Italian government site is in the article.

It seems the government and especially the media do not want people to know this fact. Hmm, why is that?
1 posted on 03/18/2020 6:23:29 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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Inquiring minds want to know.


2 posted on 03/18/2020 6:25:25 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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BFL


3 posted on 03/18/2020 6:26:02 AM PDT by yobid (Tagline disabled due to apathy.)
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I wonder how many Americans have comorbidity.

I have comorbidity x3, but that’s okay you can just toss me in the basket of We Don’t Care About You, Brah.


4 posted on 03/18/2020 6:28:19 AM PDT by chris37 (Despite my growing “Coronaphobia”, I still feel at least mostly sane half of the time.)
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There was a headline posted here the other day about a 21 year-old Spaniard who died from the coronavirus. It wasn’t until the second or third paragraph that they mentioned his leukemia.

I made the point that people who die in plane crashes will he documented as COVID-19 fatalities if they test positive for the virus in their autopsies.

5 posted on 03/18/2020 6:29:11 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Oh, but it's hard to live by the rules; I never could and still never do.")
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This sounds like the HIV hokey pokey. If a straight dies of pneumonia It is recorded as such. If a gay dies of pneumonia they are tested for HIV and if the test is positive the death is noted as AIDS, and if the test is negative then the death is recorded as pneumonia. Straights are not tested for HIV. Thus HIV became the banner under which numerous diseases, viruses, and bacterias, and infections were gathered to create a crisis that earned gays political power.

If I die of WuFlu when I am 90 I will consider it a huge victory!


9 posted on 03/18/2020 6:34:46 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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Am I correct in assuming they consider being over 60 to be comorbidity regardless of how healthy one is?


10 posted on 03/18/2020 6:35:42 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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Intriguing, except the presence of comorbidity doesn’t mean death wasn’t primarily caused by the virus or that those people shouldn’t be included in the death toll. This just reinforces what we already knew.


11 posted on 03/18/2020 6:36:13 AM PDT by The Pack Knight
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Italians over 80...hmm...


17 posted on 03/18/2020 6:41:58 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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The numbers here are very telling:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

Notice the “all cases” vs “Confirmed cases” columns. The confirmed cases column tells us that almost nobody has died of the Chinavirus. And, literally NOBODY without some sort of pre-existing condition has died of the virus.

I keep asking people on the internet if they personally know of someone that has the disease. So far, crickets.

This is shocking.


21 posted on 03/18/2020 6:44:20 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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But what nation wants to lose billions in productivity and income, and needlessly tank their whole economy? Italy? What, exactly, is the motive for this economically ruinous charade?


23 posted on 03/18/2020 6:44:41 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I ain't denyin' the women are foolish. The Good Lord made 'em to match the men.")
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Part of that is no doubt the Italian government trying to spin its way out of a political disaster. But its factually true.


26 posted on 03/18/2020 6:45:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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If true, then almost no one will be dying from cancer or those other diseases, should everyone be infected.

Odd way to play with the stats.


31 posted on 03/18/2020 6:51:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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The headline is slightly incorrect. The article states 12 people.


33 posted on 03/18/2020 6:53:07 AM PDT by Willgamer (Rex Lex or Lex Rex?)
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We need a pilot program where people can volunteer to go live together, shake hands and share spoons all day out on some BLM land and we’ll see how they all are in a month.

Who’s in?


57 posted on 03/18/2020 7:11:03 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Epstein pulled a Carradine, the bozo.)
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It's interesting, I wonder what the US cohort population that fits that is, it's gotta be percentage-wise of the population somewhere near Italy.

Also I would like to see the same stats on US COVID-19 patients and deaths thus far -- one would think that since that cohort is still dominated by Kirkland, that we would see similar numbers.

61 posted on 03/18/2020 7:15:59 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (CNN's Dana B: "Show of hands: Coverage for undocumented immigrants?" ***all Democrat hands raised***)
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There is no story at your link.


81 posted on 03/18/2020 7:30:25 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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Do you believe President Trump? If not why?


90 posted on 03/18/2020 7:34:21 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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Link to article doesn’t work.


106 posted on 03/18/2020 7:46:29 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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ping-a-ling-a-ling


107 posted on 03/18/2020 7:47:28 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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With this latest ‘headline’, my cynicism kicks in and says that ‘someone’ is trying to walk back some false info that was fed to ‘us’ that caused a major panic and is now trying to right the ‘sinking ship’.

Fear is one thing but ‘fake fear’ leading to mass hysteria is quite another.

Seeing such statements as ‘I am afraid to walk outside’ or ‘death is surely lurking outdoors’ etc doesn’t help ANY situation and yes, my apparent complete disregard is not as bad as one thinks.

If I were to ‘feel bad’ etc, I would stay in till I felt better and if it persisted would seek ‘help’.

My ‘brushing off’ this panic as nothing more that overhyped hype is also a ‘tool’ to cope.

Check out what is allowed and not allowed and tell me the significance of the ‘actions’.

11 people in a bar ... NO
150 people fighting over a roll of TP in local supermarket....OK

Show me the reasoning.....kind of like one saying they are a ‘little bit pregnant’

If we all just use common sense, we would be much better off.

FOLLOW THE MONEY


113 posted on 03/18/2020 7:56:00 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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