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“Tears frozen to the cheeks” hit me enough to wince....in a ditch with nighttime temps around 12....

This case does raise legal issues I suppose...but unless I’m mistaken no warranties needed to lift prints from an outdoor place so would DNA in her trash be different ...the girl was 18....my maternal grandma had 2 children by then in the 20s and 30s in piney woods east Mississippi ...to best of my knowledge she never killed any and she was without question finest truly strong woman I ever knew

1 posted on 03/14/2020 9:03:23 AM PDT by wardaddy
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DNA in Trash is discarded DNA and no longer in her possession. Same with a cup used for drinking at a restaurant and left at the table. Same with a cigarette or cigar butt discarded on the street or sidewalk.

Am not familiar with any states not observing this.

2 posted on 03/14/2020 9:11:09 AM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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I believe the supreme court has ruled that trash put out for pickup is not subject to having to get a warrant.

Murder is forever.


3 posted on 03/14/2020 9:13:28 AM PDT by elfie77
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Police May Search People's Trash Without a Warrant, Court Rules (1988)

"In a footnote placed after the word ''snoops,'' Justice White noted: ''Even the refuse of prominent Americans has not been invulnerable. In 1975, for example, a reporter for a weekly tabloid seized five bags of garbage from the sidewalk outside the home of Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.'' The tabloid, which Justice White did not name, was The National Enquirer."

4 posted on 03/14/2020 9:13:34 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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What goes in your trash can is legitimately no longer yours. Constructive possession has been voluntarily surrendered, otherwise trash pickers could be arrested for petty theft.


5 posted on 03/14/2020 9:14:25 AM PDT by alloysteel (Freedom is not a matter of life and death. It is much more serious than that..)
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Indeed, no love for a child....

Regarding trash/DNA and searches, leaving trash outside ones curtilage is fair game for anyone to peruse.

Don’t place your trash past your property line/into a right of way.

As long as it is on your property, it isn’t abandoned even if placed out for pickup. If you pay for trash pickup, the trash is property in transfer and belongs to you or the trash service....unless placed in the public domain.

My trash guy complains that my can is too far from the roadside, but I place it just on my side of a survey marker, on my property, he has to enter my property to claim the trash. It works that way in Missouri anyways.


6 posted on 03/14/2020 9:14:39 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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If the garbage evidence was taken illegally then throw out the garbage evidence.

Just keep the DNA evidence that was obtained through the court order. The defense should be happy with that.

The defense doesn’t have a case. Once again the ACLU is on a murderer’s side—THE WRONG SIDE.


10 posted on 03/14/2020 9:20:01 AM PDT by ZagFan
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https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/content/news/Bentaas-makes-first-court-appearance-507004201.html

Family who found the frozen infant 37 years ago continue to advocate for the baby.

“He has no family so we are there for him”

Wow


13 posted on 03/14/2020 9:25:03 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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The courts have long ruled that once you put out the trash, it is fair game for law enforcement. Some mafia types have had their trash taken and analyzed for years.


18 posted on 03/14/2020 9:45:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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Nope. Once you throw it away, your actions have declared you no longer have any interest in its fate.


20 posted on 03/14/2020 9:46:45 AM PDT by null and void (By the pricking of my lungs, Something wicked this way comes ...)
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Not meaning to sound callous, but if the Dems get their way, that baby would be considered an "abortion" after birth and there would be no crime. Apparently the Dems don't recognize infanticide.

As for the woman who gave birth to that tragic baby (I won't call her a mother), I wish they could leave her out in 12 degree weather to die alone and unloved with tears on her cheeks and just a blanket to cover her. I am a woman who has zero sympathy for women like her. The year 1981 was not exactly the Dark Ages. There were plenty of alternatives available to her other than just throwing her newborn out into the gutter.

In 1981, birth control was readily available. So was abortion (ugh). So were all sorts of social services, hospitals, fire stations, police stations, etc. Even a "scared" 18-year-old could have dropped the newborn off in any of those places and just walked away.

21 posted on 03/14/2020 9:47:12 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Politics is all about quid pro quos. Donate to me! Vote for me! I'll give you "free" stuff.)
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No, it does not raise legal issues. The Supreme Court has ruled that trash is community property and is not subject to warrants.


22 posted on 03/14/2020 9:47:24 AM PDT by richardtavor
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Trash is discarded property and is not sacrosanct.


25 posted on 03/14/2020 9:56:11 AM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe day)
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She was afraid??? So she does worse than “offend one of these little ones”, she kills her baby. She apparently didn’t fear the one that is able “to destroy both body and soul in hell”.

The unconnected attorney, that the news station asked for expert opinion,.....

Did anyone that saw his face, immediately think, “he looks like Neil Armstrong, circa 1969. Looked just like him.


26 posted on 03/14/2020 10:07:18 AM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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The Federal courts have consistently ruled that once you put trash out for collection you've renounced ownership of it and basically anyone...including police..can came by and take it.
27 posted on 03/14/2020 10:07:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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She's grasping at straws looking for a way out.

Too late girl... they're gonna "fry your eyes"

28 posted on 03/14/2020 10:18:54 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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I’m surprised that baby killer is still alive, seems prison justice would have hit by now.


30 posted on 03/14/2020 10:41:29 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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You can count on the ACLU to rush to the defense of the most brutal murderers.


31 posted on 03/14/2020 10:44:09 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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The Angel that picked him up from that ditch, warmed him and took him to Heaven wiped away those tears and there have been no more, ever.


32 posted on 03/14/2020 10:45:09 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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Burn the bitch!


33 posted on 03/14/2020 11:04:50 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism!)
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She cares more about her discarded DNA in the garbage as the Discarded baby with her DNA she left in the ditch.


37 posted on 03/14/2020 4:06:27 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Unlike Bloomberg, I have said "Fat broads"and "Horsefaced Lesbians" but cuz I luv them both.)
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