Posted on 03/14/2020 6:49:16 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
MADRID - Spains government will say all Spaniards must stay home except to buy food or drugs, go to hospital, go to work or other emergencies according to a draft decree seen by Reuters on Saturday, confirming reports in local media.
(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...
It’s great seeing once and for all what countries’ people are really free and and which are not.
It’s great seeing once and for all what countries’ people are really free and and which are not.
Eating there would be worth the risk. I want me one of them there sammiches.
L
Covid-19: European Leaders Finally Acknowledge Scale Of Crisis
Sat, 03/14/2020
The disease is spreading fast: more than 28,000 coronavirus cases (93% of all cases) in Europe were confirmed during just the first twelve days of March. The number of new cases has been doubling, on average, every 72 hours.
[EUROPEAN CASES DOUBLING EVERY 72 HOURS!!!!]
The threat is very significant... There are many epidemiologists who talk about the potential of the virus in terms of attack rates globally that could be between 50% and 70% of the global population.
It is important to recognize that the virus is here and that it has tremendous potential to be disruptive, to cause high rates of illness and even high rates of death....
I dont think we are dealing with the flu here... this is a virus that is now circulating in a population that has absolutely no immunity to it.... You might have an attack rate that is three times higher than seasonal flu with a mortality rate that is ten times higher.
The most concerning thing about this virus is the combination of infectiousness and the ability to cause severe disease or death. We have not since 1918 since the Spanish flu seen a virus that combined those two qualities in the same way. We have seen very lethal viruses Ebolas mortality rate in some cases is greater than 80% but they dont have the infectiousness that this virus has. They dont have the potential to explode and spread globally....
I think that what we are seeing is a virus that is many, many times more lethal than the flu, and a population that is completely vulnerable to it, and we are seeing its ability to explode. It has increased in some countries over the last two weeks by one thousand-fold and many countries are seeing ten-fold or one hundred-fold increases in cases. There is nothing to stop that expansion from continuing unless those societies move aggressively, engage their publics, implement multiple public health interventions, including introducing social distancing....
We need to modify our behavior. We need to start practicing that now. We have to modify our behavior in ways that reduces the risk of transmitting the virus.... One challenge that we face is that people who are young and are generally healthy wont perceive personal risk and they will govern their behavior based on what they perceive their personal risk to be. I think we need to start thinking in terms of the social risk. If I have a cold and I go to work and shake hands with my older colleague who has a chronic medical condition, I could be responsible for that colleagues death. We all need to think about our responsibility to each other as we govern our behavior. We cant view the epidemic in terms of our personal risk, we need to act collectively in a cooperative manner....
I dont think its a crazy analogy to compare this to World War 2... I think this is an appropriate analogy and the mindset that people need to get into....
[Read it all at the link]
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-19-european-leaders-finally-acknowledge-scale-crisis
Dont be too cocky....
All K-12 schools are closed from March 16 to April 5 in Michigan. Where I work as a mental health counselor the business is closed too for at least 1 week. All the cases 5 in Michigan are in the Detroit Metropolitan area (2) and the Grand Rapids Area (3).
Jamon! Oh my goodness the ham there is amazing - along with their fresh bread its heaven.
...Eating there would be worth the risk.
I want me one of them there sammiches.
Isn’t that what yer’ Wimmin is for? (/duck)
If I sent Mrs. L to Spain for a sammich she wouldnt be back for 2 months. And shed spend hours and hours telling me all about it.
While I at a PBJ.
L
I am more worried about people and the people’s reaction to tall of this.

Workers place a mask on the figure of the Fallas festival in Valencia, Spain, on Wednesday. The festival, which was due to take place on Friday, has been canceled over the coronavirus outbreak.
I’ve seen the first draft but it still needs some clarification. It says you can go to work but what if you work in, for instance, at the motor vehicle inspection station? I’m supposed to get a vehicle inspected on Tuesday but I’m not allowed to travel because I’m not going to work or to buy food. What’s the point of having people working at vehicle inspections if people aren’t allowed to leave to get their vehicles inspected? Change that to a sporting goods store, or a dry cleaner, or a garage and you can see that the order needs some tweaking.
Same here. You speak for millions.
Universal self-quarantine. We'll see how well that works.Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
The false positive rate was 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's or one old farts life, it's worth it.
They're to die for!
Spain is not the US. That said, your state’s governor could do pretty much the same thinggovernor’s have a great deal more power over peoples lives than mere Presidents. I’m sure the quarantine laws that were on the books in 1918-19 are still there. They just haven’t been used for a long time.
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