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Medicare For All on Display!!!!

Go home and die, grandma!

1 posted on 03/12/2020 1:17:57 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Triage, it happens on every battlefield.


2 posted on 03/12/2020 1:19:35 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Erik Latranyi

That is already happening from a interview of an Italy doctor I saw the other day. They have to choose who lives and who dies.


3 posted on 03/12/2020 1:19:44 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Erik Latranyi

Since they say the overall majority of those sick are the elderly, this seems unusually cruel.


4 posted on 03/12/2020 1:23:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Erik Latranyi
distributive justice

in other words > yer f'd

6 posted on 03/12/2020 1:24:22 PM PDT by tomkat
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From what I have seen of the Italian health care system - lived there for nine years - it wouldn’t take much to overwhelm it. And even without the Coronavirus their care of the elderly was little more than hospice level. In some of their hospitals there isn’t even a third shift.... patients are on their own over night (hopefully they have family helping out).


7 posted on 03/12/2020 1:24:32 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This happens in every mass casualty event, be it war or disaster, terrorists attack or severe multivehicle car accident. If there is not enough medical resources for everyone, the medicos have to perform triage. Those who can wait for treatment, those that need treatment now, and those that are likely going to die soon even with treatment.

While it would be nice to blame this on socialized medicine, and it does make it worse, it really isn’t. On 9/11, first responders had to do the same thing with Towers victims. Some were left to die in a quiet area.


8 posted on 03/12/2020 1:24:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

COVID-29 — ???

Should be COVID-19...


9 posted on 03/12/2020 1:25:02 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This is just more garbage. Well less then 1000 people have died in italy over 2 months. And you’re acting as if it’s over 1M. Add to that virtually all of the deaths had other serious contributing illnesses. Get a grip.


10 posted on 03/12/2020 1:25:15 PM PDT by JoSixChip (I'm an American Nationalist)
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With single payor, comes rationing. They don’t tell you that.


11 posted on 03/12/2020 1:25:33 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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It’s just a late, late, late-term abortion, Grandma!

Dad’s nursing facility called to tell me that they are pro-actively giving everyone (staff and residents) Tamiflu this week, even if they’ve had flu shots.

The don’t want to have a repeat of all the nursing home deaths in, ‘The People’s Republic of Washington State.’

Smart move, IMHO, and once again - thank your Lucky Stars you were born in America and we ALL had better crawl over broken glass to get to the polls this November!


12 posted on 03/12/2020 1:27:21 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Medical resources are not infinite even in our semi free market health care system. If it gets overwhelmed we will have to make these kinds of choices here. Hence the importance of flattening the curve of contagion. Then, even if the same number of people get infected, they can all be treated.


14 posted on 03/12/2020 1:28:06 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina
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To: Erik Latranyi

Likely need to deny. It hasn’t happened yet.


15 posted on 03/12/2020 1:28:19 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Per Doctor Obama, granny can take a pill and lie down.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/26/obama_maybe_youre_better_off_taking_painkillers_and_forgoing_surgery.html


16 posted on 03/12/2020 1:29:54 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Towering genius disdains a beaten path." - Abraham Lincoln)
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helluva a way to prune the Medicare population!!


17 posted on 03/12/2020 1:30:50 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible")
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To: Erik Latranyi

Triage station on the lawn of the Pentagon after the 9/11 attack. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bc/DN-SD-04-12743.JPEG/1280px-DN-SD-04-12743.JPEG

Those who are likely to survive with aid *have* to be prioritized over those likely to die with aid and those who can wait a bit. That is how it is.


21 posted on 03/12/2020 1:34:54 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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“Will be”? I am fairly certain that should read “Have been.”


25 posted on 03/12/2020 1:40:45 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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Medicare patients are already being denied optimal care in U.S. hospitals because Medicare pays less and denies certain procedures according to people I know who deal with these issues. The hospitals do not want to absorb costs so tough.


27 posted on 03/12/2020 1:42:06 PM PDT by amihow
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Ex Spurts warn....


39 posted on 03/12/2020 1:57:28 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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Too bad the NGOs wasted all those resources acting as a shuttle service for illegal immigrants.


44 posted on 03/12/2020 2:05:43 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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Does Italy practice private care, socialized medicine, or a combination?


47 posted on 03/12/2020 2:06:55 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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