US coronavirus cases hit more than 400: Frightening photo of an infected Nebraska woman, 36, being taken to a bio-containment unit is released as the outbreak grows and death toll rises to 19

dm ^ | 3/7/2020 | court and griffith

[RummyChick]

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ICU rationing + prioritization beginning in Italy Flag of Italy: “Place age limit for access to intensive care, based on greatest possibilities of survival.” Rightwards arrow guideline from the Italian Society of Anesthesia. No way to save everyone if insufficient ICU bed. Oy. https://news1.news/u/2020/03/coronavirus-intensive-care-doctors-in-lombardy-timely-actions-or-disastrous-health-calamity-the-access-priority-hypothesis-whoever-has-the-most-chance-of-survival-first.html

[mrsmith]

“Frightening photo!”
“Frightening photo!”
“Frightening photo!”
“Frightening photo!”

As far as our media goes...

[Vermont Lt]

It appears to be deadly to the elderly...because it hasn’t hit a grammar school yet.

Listen to what the talking heads are saying. And, also how they say it. It tells you everything you need to know.

[garandgal]

I havent been keeping up with this story. She could have been a coach or staff. She was also at the VFW

People on the Facebook page of the local news there say that she is a special needs individual cared for by an "elderly" father. This could be another nursing home type situation; lots of exposure to those with special needs (at the Special Olympics event) & to older folks (at the VFW).

[RummyChick]

So sad..probably doesn’t understand what is happening to her..then her father could get taken out.

This Italy thing is a head scratcher to me...But then again..if Patient 0 Is really a Pakistani that refused to self quarantine..maybe it is a whole different thing going on there.

[ocrp1982]

I don’t think he’s being sarcastic in the way you believe he is. I think he’s calling out the all too numerous Freeper Littles. The, “WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE”!!! Crowd. Of which there are very very many on this board.
Personally, I find them tedious and pathetic. Drama Queens. But, that’s just me.
I’ve spent years fighting in Third World countries where diseases that are far worse than this are prevalent. Countries where they drink water to survive that would make most Americans puke.
And, those people manage to survive.
A major issue with 1st world countries (us) is we are soft. We have 1st world worries. 1st world issues. We haven’t a clue what it takes to survive as a people outside our secure little bubbles.
And, when the media inundates us with drama designed to feed their 24/7 viewership cycle too many of us accommodate the media and freakout. Right on cue. Like trained seals.

[entropy12]

Main difference between covid-19 and the Flu is that the new virus is new, people have no resistance from previous exposures, so it is more contagious. The death % numbers are bogus because we just don’t know how many had the milder version of covid-19 and chalked it off to just sniffles and got better and never reported to anyone. Add those people to confirmed cases, and that makes a bigger divisor to the death count. Even president Trump said this during the CDC visit.

It is remarkable that that so few under age 50 have died among the confirmed covid-19 cases. Which adds to above argument that death percentages are bogus.

[RummyChick]

I dont really see anyone saying we are all going to die.

I do see people say that we do not know much about this disease. People are fine one minute and an hour later being rushed to the hospital.

There are those that don’t give a damn and think they are invincible.

There are others that know they are in a high risk category.

You don’t have to read the stories if you think you are invincible

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Right you are (about that poor man on the ground in Iran). I'm sure you saw this earlier today:

The American Hospital Association, which represents thousands of hospitals and health systems, hosted a webinar on February 26, 2020 with its member hospitals and health systems. The presentation, titled "What healthcare leaders need to know: Preparing for the COVID-19" was presented with representatives from the National Ebola Training and Education Center. Dr. James Lawler, a professor at the University of Nebraska Medical Center gave his "best guess“ estimates of how much the virus might spread in the US:

[FoxInSocks]

4.75 percent of known cases of people who popped positive on a coronavirus test kit?

Who knows how many people have it and are asymptomatic or just ride it out with minor symptoms and get better. Maybe thousands; the rate could just as well be 0.0475 percent.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

And millions (tens of millions?) have gotten the flu vaccinations. Plus, people have been exposed to the various influenza virus for decades.

[House Atreides]

This is ridiculous. It mentions that the woman was in a Special Olympics event, and from what little I can learn, it appears to me that she may have had Downs Syndrome. This is a condition that predisposes people to various respiratory problems, and once upon a time few people with this condition lived much beyond their twenties.
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Don’t confuse them with facts. Respiratory problems including acute respiratory distress syndrome are indeed by far the most frequent cause of hospital admissions as well as the leading cause of death of persons with Down Syndrome. The HYSTERIA on these boards is becoming palpable.

[rfp1234]

You may be right. On the other hand, health workers need as much protection as possible, and peace of mind, to work effectively. And it’s good preparation just in case the virus rapidly mutates to something much worse.

[Natty Bumppo@frontier.net]

The common cold is a corona virus.

Naturally occurring coronavirus do not:

-Encapsulate and survive on inorganic surfaces for 14-28 days

-Cause pneumonia

-Survive in feces

-Survive in dead bodies after the temperature of the body drops below 86 °F

-Make the host contagious prior to the host becoming symptomatic

However, pneumonia viruses, such as the hanta viruses do all of the above.

It's way past time to stop pretending that COVID-19 is a naturally occurring coronavirus.

It is probably a man-are combination of a coronavirus found in horseshoe bats and a hanta virus from a rodent common to China.

No, it is not a bio-weapon. At least not yet, as the PRC has not, or could not develop a vaccine for it.

Nor, was it deliberately released. The release is probably due to a mistake by a "clumsy insider."

The R-naught for COVID-19 has been documented on at least three occasions as 7 or higher (7, 10, and 14). Given 3660 deaths to date and 59,866 recovered patients, the death rate [=deaths/(recovered+deaths) = 3660/(59,866 + 3600)] is 5.8%.

Because it encapsulates, and based on the results from Singapore, Australia, Hong Kong, New Zealand, and Taiwan where it is already warm and humid, COVID-19 is NOT going to "go away in May" as do naturally occurring coronaviruses.

COVID-19 is NOT the Zombie Apocalypse, nor is it The End of The World As We Know It, BUT, it is NOT "business as usual," either.

A webinar conducted in February by the American Hospital Association predicts that there could be as many as 96 million cases, 4.9 million people hospitalized, and 480,000 deaths from COVID-19 before it runs its course.

Your Mileage May Vary (YMMV).

[proust]

“Who knows how many people have it and are asymptomatic or just ride it out with minor symptoms and get better. Maybe thousands;”

And go on to infect how many others? Got to go beyond one step thinking.

[ConservativeMind]

Or it could be above 6%.

Plenty of people have died from “pneumonia” or the “flu.”

These could have been Coronavirus.

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[RummyChick]

So are you trying to claim she doesn’t have the virus?

Or that she was going to die early anyway of a lung issue?

Or that she can’t possibly be contagious because she has Downs?

I don’t really undersand your point.

[Husker24]

It’s where they cured those ebola patients a while back.

[FoxInSocks]

I’m not suggesting that people with flu-like symptoms should be out mingling with everyone.

I was making a point that current mortality rates are calculated with incomplete information; there’s a low degree of confidence.