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Deciphering Turkey’s darkest night in Syria
Al-Monitor ^
| February 28, 2020
| Metin Gurcan
Posted on 02/28/2020 6:52:17 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: LegendHasIt
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posted on
02/29/2020 4:36:32 AM PST
by
bert
( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
To: eartick
Thing is, they don’t *need* them. They have an unrestricted license to make FIM-92 Stingers and are still cranking them out by the thousand.
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posted on
02/29/2020 4:52:11 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: BobL
S400 batteries have yet to down a single plane. The “kill switch” is the Russian trainers - the turks cannot operate them independently for at least another year if then.
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posted on
02/29/2020 5:21:43 AM PST
by
PIF
(They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
To: PIF
Ok, thanks. I do know that Israel doesn’t look forward to having to deal with them.
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posted on
02/29/2020 6:17:46 AM PST
by
BobL
(If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
To: BobL
[Ok, thanks. I do know that Israel doesn’t look forward to having to deal with them.]
Every new weapon system is a step into the unknown. My impression is that Russian weaponry always comes with great published specs that don’t necessarily translate into practice. But even when effective, workarounds can be figured out surprisingly quickly. During the Yom Kippur War in the 70’s, Russian SAMs and RPGs did a number on Israeli defenses and counter-attacks. Then the Israelis worked out counters to the equipment and began rolling up Egyptian and Syrian columns and positions. By the 80’s, they were routinely racking up victories against Syrian aircraft and SAMs alike in Lebanon, and brushing aside their infantry and armor.
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02/29/2020 8:15:25 AM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: Zhang Fei
“By the 80’s, they were routinely racking up victories against Syrian aircraft and SAMs alike in Lebanon, and brushing aside their infantry and armor.”
I also remember the 82 war in Lebanon. The Russian S200s there got hammered by Israel...EXCEPT when manned by Russians (as opposed to Syrians) - for those, Israel still prevailed, but did lose planes in the process.
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posted on
02/29/2020 8:31:39 AM PST
by
BobL
(If some people here don't want to prep for Coronavirus, they can explain it to their families)
To: BobL
[I also remember the 82 war in Lebanon. The Russian S200s there got hammered by Israel...EXCEPT when manned by Russians (as opposed to Syrians) - for those, Israel still prevailed, but did lose planes in the process.]
To my knowledge, Israel lost 1 plane in Lebanon in the 80’s, as a result of the premature detonation of a bomb it dropped. They’re still looking for Ron Arad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ron_Arad
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02/29/2020 8:42:47 AM PST
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
To: CMSMC
Turkey right now is a USSR of 1941 minus manpower and heavy industry. Erdogan purged everyone who are smart in the military years ago.
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