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1. Debate about what?

2. See number 1.

The "right" is supposed to be protected from 'infringements' in any manner. Not hard. Of course I didn't attend Hahvahd or Yuhale.

1 posted on 02/28/2020 6:36:52 PM PST by rktman
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A militia is a civilian army. There can be no “well-regulated militias” if civilians can’t bear arms.


2 posted on 02/28/2020 6:42:49 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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In states like New York,Massachusetts,Kalifornia and now even Virginia you basically have to know a politician to be allowed to have a firearm.When is SCOTUS gonna make clear that “shall not be infringed” applies not only to Federal officials but to state,county and municipal officials as well?
3 posted on 02/28/2020 6:47:40 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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I have always marveled at the notion that the 2nd amendment, part of the Bill of Rights, would be the only one that guarantees a right of the government (militia armaments).


5 posted on 02/28/2020 6:50:36 PM PST by cartoonistx ( the feeling of fainting!)
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What the Left fails to realize is that “militia” is not the organized forces of the state but the armed civilians. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to guarantee the right of the civilians to keep and bear arms against the tyranny of the armed forces of the state. Do we really have to remind anyone of the actions of the armed civilians against the King’s troops at Concord and Lexington?


6 posted on 02/28/2020 6:53:32 PM PST by Petrosius
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From Stephen Gutkowski in the article: It’s almost as though the Second Amendment protects people’s rights to have and use guns in part because the founders believed a well-armed populace could form into a military force capable of protecting a free society

This has been my understanding since being a small school boy...How can an ordinary raggamuffin citizen have this understanding, but the leading minds of the left can’t come to the same conclusion...


7 posted on 02/28/2020 6:53:51 PM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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The Second Amendment grants the individual right to keep and bear arms.
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WRONG!

It recognizes a right that pre-existed the Constitution.


10 posted on 02/28/2020 6:57:29 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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The Second Amendment grants the individual right to keep and bear arms.


11 posted on 02/28/2020 6:58:39 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Bump


15 posted on 02/28/2020 7:20:33 PM PST by foreverfree
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The Second Amendment grants the individual right to keep and bear arms.

Sorry Matt. Your ignorance is showing.

2A does NOT "grant" us any right. It tells the government that it cannot abridge our natural, God given right to self protection and bearing arms.

It really, really pisses me off when people who ought to know better claim we derive our right to arms and self protection from a document. A document whose purpose is to put the government on notice that it cannot restrict a natural right of man. Saying that implies that were the document changed (repealed) we would no longer possess that right. Absolutely not!

19 posted on 02/28/2020 7:54:29 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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The purpose of the second amendment is to prevent tyranny. Not shoot Bambi, target practice, or have fun at a gun range. And tyrants can be from outside our borders,,,or inside.

Now explain how in that context why we should ever infringe on that purpose.


22 posted on 02/28/2020 8:54:44 PM PST by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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The militia was every able bodied man you freaking jerks.


23 posted on 02/28/2020 10:09:40 PM PST by Impy (I have no virtue to signal.)
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Monroe County declared a Second Amendment sanctuary (WI)
WEAU News Channel 13 ^ | February 27, 2020 | Hayley Spitler

Posted on 02/28/2020 5:00:42 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

SPARTA, WI (WEAU)— Monroe County is declared a Second Amendment sanctuary.This comes after the county board approved a resolution during a meeting Wednesday.
The resolution opposes any unconstitutional changes to the ‘right to bear arms.’

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3820402/posts


25 posted on 02/29/2020 2:38:46 AM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin posting here for the record hoping somebody might read and pass around)
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It doesn’t state “the right of the militia”, it states “the right of the people”. Arguing that you have to be part of a militia to exercise the right to keep and bear arms is asinine, the people have that right, not the militia.


27 posted on 02/29/2020 4:33:32 AM PST by GaryCrow
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx23c84obwQ

This is the best explanation of the second amendment you will find.


28 posted on 02/29/2020 5:52:21 AM PST by suthener
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The first part of the amendment recognizes the need for and desirability of a citizen militia. The second part forbids government interfering with the right to own or carry weapons. Nothing there limits the right to militiamen, or forces militia service upon any citizen.


30 posted on 02/29/2020 1:12:35 PM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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