Posted on 02/22/2020 12:53:17 PM PST by NobleFree
President Donald Trump should use his February 24-25 visit to India to help companies export more Indian college-graduate workers into U.S. white-collar jobs, says an Indian trade group run by Indian and U.S.-Indian companies.
The trade association, dubbed NASSCOM, “is lobbying the two sides to treat the movement of skilled Indian workers under the H-1B scheme as a trade issue, asking that it be separated from the president’s broader concerns about immigration to the US,” according to a report in Financial Times:
“We’re at a loss trying to figure out why we’re seeing the kind of discrimination when this is actually benefiting the US,” Ms Ghosh said, arguing that Indian workers help to fill a vital skills gap in the country.
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“We just have one request to [our Indian] government, which is — talk to him, make him understand the importance of high-skilled talent mobility,” Ms Ghosh said. “We have to ensure that he understands that this cannot be treated the same way as immigration — they’re two different things. That’s our biggest ask.”
[…] “The president needs to hear from his base … early and often,” said Daniel Horowitz, editor of Conservative Review:
Now is precisely the time to stand up and not stand down out of fear of pressuring the president. He wants to be pressured [by the base because] it is very hard for the president to go in one direction when 100 percent of the pressure inside the administration is headed in the other direction. The mistake that Trump supporters make is that they wait until it is too late and the president feels compelled to go with the swamp. The time to get to the president is early and often.
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We have affirmative action hiring practices where I work. HR only lets me interview college kids they prescreen.
Last interview session I had 3 Africans and 2 Pakistanis. None of these were US citizens. Only person I interviewed was an actual “African American”.
My kid is in College. His friends in getting engineering degrees were way sharper than any of the foreign kids I interviewed, but they are white and male, sooo....
White Males are a tiny minority in the world. Diversity is based on a lie.
Underemployment rate by degree type:
agriculture 53.9%
journalism 42.5%
computer science 23.5%
information systems and management 38.1%
elementary education 15.9%
general engineering 23.5%
electrical engineering 22.3%
biochemistry 33.5%
chemistry 35.4%
art history 56.5%
pharmacy 28.7%
finance 37.0%
history 53.1%
marketing 52.7%
[...] computer science 23.5%
No new H1B visas - no renewals.
“Make these companies PROVE that there are no American applicants before allowing a single one to come here.”
Any such ‘proof’ would be bogus.
My immigration reform plan would simply make the companies pay a $4/hour tax if the imported worker makes less than $30/hour. And yes, they’d have to punch a clock.
My IT shop gave a $100 million contract to an American Big IT company in May 2018. They tried until Aug 2019 to hire competent IT workers. They were open to both consultants (mostly from TEK) but also from half a dozen other firms, and employees. They did not discriminate.
Out of about 100 brought in and 75 on the job at the end, this Big IT company could not find more than 3 or 4 competent (none in managementJ). The top 10 executives were all incompetent...meaning that had no clue what was needed on this project. The contract and the company’s response to the RFP were very clear English. But they clearly did not understand IT and IT projects.
In Aug 2019 my IT shop canceled the contract. Many lawyer are currently employed getting most of the money, rather than IT workers.
The unqualified workers that were brought in the the best they could find were a mix of Natural born citizen, naturalized, green card, H1b and probably illegals. (who was checking? Certainly not the sub-contractors of consulting companies.)
The lesson is that there is a worldwide shortage of competent IT workers. Asian Indians (including the incompetent ones) are willing to move to where the jobs are (in my case Atlanta.) Many Americans (both competent and incompetent are at a disadvantage because they do not want to move to where the jobs are.)
From the day I left the Army in 1967 to November 2012 I was always able to find the next consulting assignment in 2 days in Illinois. From Nov 2012 to Apr 2013 IL had no jobs. I saw plenty of jobs in Red States. But it took me (and my wife) half a year to wake up and admit I had to move to where the jobs are.
I see new Yankee immigrants to Atlanta. Some waited years in Democrat Rust Bet cities before finally realizing they had to move to where the jobs are.
That is the job market. Some Americans go where the jobs are. But not enough. And not in a timely manner. The American job market has several irrational features, unemployment comp being just one of them. Asian Indians are eager to go where the jobs are. Advantage, Asian Indians.
Stop depressing the wages of US tech workers by importing foreigners.
” Ms Ghosh said, arguing that Indian workers help to fill a vital skills gap in the country.”
There isn’t a skills gat. There are plenty of skilled Americans. The H1B program allows businesses to pay slave wages to foreigners instead of an honest wage to Americans.
Nailed it! It is the PRICES Dr Watson!!
Capitalism = profits before individual Americans who might earn less.
very good analysis!
India has a huge surplus of computer programmers. Exporting the surplus does not cause any loss of self-sufficiency.
And add to that American companies place profits before loyalty to individual Americans.
I know a guy who was laid off at my last employer. 50’s, CS degree, been there for over a dozen years. He could not find another job. Period. Ran out of money and committed suicide. I know another guy in his 50’s who got laid off last summer. He is still looking. Don’t tell me there is an IT shortage.
The damned social security office in Bellevue Washington is almost all Indians and Communist Chinese elderly stealing OUR hard-earned benefits
There is a skills, er language, gap. Indian workers talk amongst themselves in their filthy native language, locking out American English speakers who don’t speak their damned language.
The idea is if you need employees you offer higher wages and benefits than your competition...When his employees quit to work for you, he does the same thing to attract employees...
Capitalism = profits before individual Americans who might earn less.
I'm pretty sure SauronOfMordor wasn't speaking in support of H1B. As for me, I say that for lasting success America needs a middle class; when unbridled capitalism erodes the American middle class through salary depression, it saws off the branch on which it sits. It's not a viable long-term option for America.
Fixed it.
A thriving middle class is a precondition for a stable capitalist country - and salary depression through mass immigration is poison to a thriving middle class. American immigration policy must benefit America, not a narrow-minded "free market"-uber-alles ideology.
If we didn’t have a booming economy, would we have enough competent IT workers? We have a shortage of Doctors and Nurses also. Their need is not driven by the size of the GDP.
Long range, we need to fix our education system. All those bronght in by the Big IT firm had Bachelors. Many had Masters. A few had PHDs. But they did not know what to DO.
I agree, so how do you propose to fix it? How about passing a law which would require American employers to hire American at twice the wage level of H1-B visa worker? Can such law solve the problem? And can it get passed and signed by the POTUS?
Reason we have shortage of doctors because there are limited number of seats in medical colleges each year. Which makes fierce competition to get in. Computer programming colleges are dime a dozen.
As for shortage of Nurses, it is a hard job and underpaid. I should know, I was married to a nurse for 23 happy years.
Tell me about it. I got my master’s in mechanical engineering at age 21 from university of Iowa. When I found a job in a firm designing and manufacturing heavy machinery, I did not know didly squat about designing those machines and knew nothing about what was involved in manufacturing.
Luckily I was a quick learner, and after 5 years I knew as much as anyone in the engineering department. So my point is the master’s degree only taught me generalized engineering, and nothing specifically useful in my job. But what the degree did for me was enhance my ability to learn quickly and how to solve problems.
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