New Chinese study indicates novel coronavirus did not originate in Huanan seafood market

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[janetjanet998]

A new study by Chinese researchers indicates the novel coronavirus may have begun human-to-human transmission in late November from a place other than the Huanan seafood market in Wuhan.

The study published on ChinaXiv, a Chinese open repository for scientific researchers, reveals the new coronavirus was introduced to the seafood market from another location, and then spread rapidly from market to market. The findings were the result of analyses of genome-wide data, sources of infection and the route of spread of 93 samples of the novel coronavirus collected from 12 countries across four continents.

[a fool in paradise]

Bat-meat warning lifted yet?

[PIF]

But it’s just not a very effective or containable agent to use.

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first test killed 5000 so effective, containable until the transports wreaked

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Some idiot(s) ate Pangolin, then went to the Wuhan seafood market while sick. It spread from there. Many of you will mock, flame, criticize me. We’ll see who is correct after all.

[ctdonath2]

Optics aren’t as good though.

[Verginius Rufus]

By "The Western world owes them a fortune (US)" I assume you are referring to the debts Western countries, especially the US, have run up, money they owe to Red China, not some moral debt Westerners might be deemed to owe to the people of China because of imperialism, gunboat diplomacy or other sins of the distant past committed by the British and other Western nations.

[DoughtyOne]

COVID-19 Spreadsheet using JHU data

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[GnuThere]

Wow.

[vetvetdoug]

In 1978 I followed the mutation of a feline virus and spread (Canine Parvovirus) from a dog show in Mobile, Alabama, and ultimately infect the entire world's population of canines. I watched in the summer of 1971 Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis spread from central America into Texas and killed thousands of horses, infect humans, and cause Texas to be quarantined for that Summer. Viral mutation from one species into another is not a new phenomenon and happens periodically. FYI, a bioweapon doesn't have to kill the population to be successful, it can be made to disrupt a population, cause economic distress and overwhelm its medical capabilities. But one important thing about a bioweapon, the one that releases it must have a vaccine or antidote and China had neither so IMO this is a natural mutation.

[null and void]

Of course this all tongue in cheek.

Of course...

[null and void]

Hard to say, google (don’t be evil) keeps moving it farther away.

Last I heard it went from 300 yards to 8.4 miles in several steps...

[Verginius Rufus]

Why do they call it the novel coronavirus? To distinguish it from the short story coronavirus, the play coronavirus and the non-fiction coronavirus?

[Ozark Tom]

There is the animal research center housing bats about three hundred yards from the market. Several technicians were bitten then quarantined for only fourteen days.

[Chickensoup]

Novel definition is - new and not resembling something formerly known or used.

[Ozark Tom]

That level four lab is miles away from the market. The animal research center is just a short stroll.

[Verginius Rufus]

Yes, I know. I was just trying to find some levity in a grim situation.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

But one important thing about a bioweapon, the one that releases it must have a vaccine or antidote and China had neither so IMO this is a natural mutation.

Good point to which I would have to agree.

[Svartalfiar]

But unless it was meant as a wartime agent, which doesn’t make NEARLY as much sense as anthrax or mustard gas or something fast and brutal, what is the point of it?

Because, in a 'war' scenario, targeting the populace doesn;t call for something fast and hard. That's why ebola doesn't kill many people - symptoms are bad, quickly detectable, and subjects are quickly quarantined. If you're trying to kill a bunch of people, you want something that spreads to as many people as possible, and if it can spread undetected with no symptoms, even better. If you can add the killing part a long time after infection, you'll be much more effective than something that kills a couple people then is immediately fought against.

Sure, against enemy military forces in direct combat, quick and hard is better. But do you really think, if we went to war against China, that they wouldn't target civilians stateside?

[Svartalfiar]

Why do they call it the novel coronavirus? To distinguish it from the short story coronavirus, the play coronavirus and the non-fiction coronavirus?

Any new discovery within virology will generally include 'novel' before the virus type, indicating that it is a new virus/strain that hasn't been fully identified yet, but is definitely not any major strain previously seen. But with today's media/immediate mass hysteria, that temporary name might stick with this one cause people the world over are not very bright.

[Lazamataz]

Why do they call it the novel coronavirus?

Because this is just like Steven King's novel, "The Stand".

[foreverfree]

Why do they call it the novel coronavirus? To distinguish it from the short story coronavirus, the play coronavirus and the non-fiction coronavirus?

And why is coronavirus spelled as one word?

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