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How ‘Conversion Therapy’ Bans Hurt Kids
The Daily Signal ^ | February 18, 2020 | Andrea Jones

Posted on 02/19/2020 6:33:54 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Utah recently codified an administrative rule that bans “any practice or treatment that seeks to change the sexual orientation or gender identity of a patient or client” under the age of 18.

This made it the 19th state to ban the practice, frequently labeled “conversion therapy.” Some call this a milestone in protecting vulnerable children, but the reality is more complicated.

Advocates describe so-called conversion therapy as a “discredited practice” linked to physical abuse, drug use, and suicide, and they point to politicized statements from medical associations and activist groups to support these claims.

Although it is possible to find instances of physical abuse and otherwise clearly harmful practices that can and should be prosecuted under existing law, counseling bans such as the one enacted in Utah are not targeted at particular practices but instead at particular values. They impose a legal ban because the state disagrees with views about human sexuality and biology held by certain professionals.

Utah’s ban includes an exemption for religious counselors and clergy members who are “acting substantially in a pastoral or religious capacity and not in the capacity of a mental health therapist.”

This exemption was included to address objections to a previous version of the ban raised by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to which more than 3 in 5 Utahans belong.

The exact parameters of the exception are unclear, and LGBT activist groups frequently single out religious groups as being the main perpetrators of abusive “conversion therapy” practices.

Counseling bans such as Utah’s have particularly troubling implications for minors struggling with gender dysphoria.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailysignal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: bans; childabuse; children; conversiontherapy; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; lgbt; transgender

1 posted on 02/19/2020 6:33:54 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 100American; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

PING!


2 posted on 02/19/2020 6:34:18 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Whatever happened to the “emanations and penumbras” that protect the “Right to Privacy” between a patient and doctor?


3 posted on 02/19/2020 6:37:41 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Does the ban also prohibit the changing from straight to gay conversion or is this just a one way ban?


4 posted on 02/19/2020 6:37:52 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Most homosexuals were sexually molested as children.

That is they were RAPED! Thus this is a BAN ON RAPE THERAPY!!!!

>http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/<

On page 37, the other relevant result relates to men.

The 13th research question addressed, of homosexual men who have been molested, what percentage were molested before self-identification as homosexual men, and what percentage were molested after self-identification as homosexual? Of homosexual men who were molested, 68% were molested before self-identification as homosexual, and 32% were molested after self-identification as homosexual.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q6pDGNQw3I<

The Left's Push For Pedophile Acceptance

If you want my Word Doc. with links to 20 other studies supporting this position, Private Message me.

5 posted on 02/19/2020 6:57:19 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Most transitions are conversions, so I am for banning children from transing


6 posted on 02/19/2020 7:03:02 PM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“physical abuse, drug use, and suicide”

Yep, sounds like the homosexual lifestyle, all right!


7 posted on 02/19/2020 7:37:40 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They don’t want to help kids. They want to control them.


8 posted on 02/19/2020 7:43:00 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: G Larry

Your premise, In your first line, is simply wrong. Whatever research that is, it is certainly more than a little suspect.


9 posted on 02/19/2020 10:14:06 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: MrChips

Private message me w your e-mail and I’ll send my MS Word Doc with links and summaries of 20 other studies.


10 posted on 02/20/2020 6:52:24 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry
Your link didn't work, but I found this one:

Warren Throckmorton: A major study of child abuse and homosexuality revisited

11 posted on 02/20/2020 7:38:30 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Party that freed sIaves, passed Civil Rights is called racist by the party that started the KKK.)
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To: Albion Wilde

A lot of my links are more than 10 years old and have been taken down by the Leftist, pro-gay lobby.


12 posted on 02/20/2020 9:15:06 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Albion Wilde
Try these:

48% molested as children )

68% were molested before self-identification as homosexual )

3/4 of homosexuals )

13 posted on 02/20/2020 9:25:43 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Utah recently codified an administrative rule that bans “any practice or treatment that seeks to change the sexual orientation or gender identity of a patient or client” under the age of 18.

I know this legislation is aiming at stopping the homosexual counseling/prevention, but this sounds like it also accidentally bans any kind of 'transsexual' conversions as well!
14 posted on 02/20/2020 4:08:13 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: G Larry

No doubt. Have you read Kinsey?


15 posted on 02/20/2020 4:28:12 PM PST by MrChips ("To wisdom belongs the apprehension of eternal things." - St. Augustine)
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To: Svartalfiar

Actually, it effectively bans people from counseling kids against mangling themselves.


16 posted on 02/21/2020 10:18:21 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Show me the people who own the land, the guns and the money, and I'll show you the people in charge.)
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