Posted on 02/17/2020 7:20:24 PM PST by DannyTN
... The researchers found that 3,019 medical workers had been infected, among whom 1,688 patients were in severe or critical condition. As of Feb. 11, the government acknowledged more than 1,700 medical workers nationwide as confirmed with the disease, almost 90% of them in Hubei, according to Chinese National Health Commission deputy chief Zeng Yixin at a press conference Friday. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at caixinglobal.com ...
If this is so danged dangerous why is America not pulling a full quarantine? I seem to remember AID’s being left unchecked back a few decades ago.
That’s an extremely high ratio of critical to infected... almost 50%.
Ping.
Bodes ill for clinical treatmentBring Out Your Dead
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.
I suspect that the ratio of critical to infected in countries outside of China might be more realistic as long as the medical system isn't overwhelmed. But there are still many that aren't recovered outside of China, and that's worrisome.
There are two charts on this page that I'm following. The total cases outside of China which unfortunately includes the cruise ship. And the number of new cases daily outside of China, which also includes the cruise ship.
I'm pleased the growth hasn't been faster outside of China. But I'm not convinced that they have it under control especially in Singapore and Japan.
And communist China isn't the only government that could lie about case statistics to preserve their economy. It could be a lot worse outside of China than what is being reported.
I’ve been following two other sites. One is at bnonews.com. It has the same data as you’ve shown. There’s another good one maintained by Johns Hopkins, with some good heatmaps. But the basic info is virtually identical.
Of the 442 non Diamond Princess (D.P.) illnesses that have been identified outside Mainland China, 128 have now been classified as recovered. That’s a 29.96% recovery rate.
30% of the non (D.P.) cases outside of Mainland China, have now been resolved, by fatality or recovery, and the ratio is 128 to 5 in the favor of recovery.
The data China has provided to date, shows 0.12% short of 20% recovered. That is growing daily. Within the next 24 to 48 hours, the numbers of declared active cases will start declining.
I would laugh at that, but the percentage recovered outside Mainland China is even higher, as depicted above.
I noticed the growing numbers of recovered people from Mainland China, and wondered if that would show up in the outside body of sick people.
It more than did.
Folks, there is a good chance that by mid-March, baring anything more catastrophic popping up out of the blue, this illness may be almost gone by mid-March, except for a hot spot or two.
My guess is 25 % of the people on the Free Corona Cruise won the lottery.
Well, I’m not in fear but the media plays this stuff up like it’s Ebola Zaire.
It may wind up being higher than that.
I think that’s the main reason we pulled our folks out.
[usa today]Q. What else don’t we know?
[Fauci]A. Another thing that we don’t know is why, with a respiratory-borne illness, are there virtually no children getting infected. I mean, there are no cases of kids less than 15 years old. Does that mean for some strange reason they’re not getting infected, or the illness is so mild in children that we’re not noticing it? It’s very clear the median age is 56 or 59.
Q. Who is at greatest risk?
A. It’s almost identical to what we’re seeing with influenza. If you’re elderly, have chronic lung disease, congestive heart failure, diabetes, obesity — all of that makes you much more likely to have complications, if not death.
Q. So why do some relatively young and healthy people like Li Wenliang, the 34-year-old Chinese doctor who tried to sound the alarm, die from COVID-19?
A. Every once in a while, you’re going to get an outlier, someone who otherwise looks perfectly healthy. Most likely, their genetic makeup doesn’t allow them to respond adequately to flu.
I recall one family in China where everyone was sick except a 13(?) year old. The mom insisted that he get tested too. He did have the virus, but didn’t exhibit any symptoms. Of course he could still infect people.
In fact, iirc, the child may have been the one that brought it into the family, and I think there were other kids elsewhere where the same thing happened.
I guess we didn’t really all see a video of three children sharing a body bag.
I don’t think cases under 15 is true. There are babies that have been diagnosed after delivery (30hrs old). a 3yo and 10yo in Kalua Lampur, a 3-5yo child of San Diego evacuees, and others. And I’m not posting the video, ever, but there are bodies of children amongst the dead, in one case, 3 toddlers to a body bag.
correction: I don’t think no cases under 15 is true.
I think part of this story is that the hospitals and even the temp-facilities...are overwhelmed. So if you bring some cousin in and they can’t house them....you go back to Chinese responsibility of relatives, and honor the person by bringing them to your home to care for them. Thus...they infect you, and your family, and it spreads on.
There are various videos on YouTube showing the truck pull up to an apartment building and recovering body-bags. Whether these deaths are accurately reported or not (I doubt it)...is the question. My guess is that they get dumped off at some cremation facility with a certificate done on the guy/gal....just to say they are dead, and then cremated. So the death count is probably a quarter of the real situation.
I agree.
Did you see this article on FR tonight?
“Virus Kills Chinese Film Director and Family in Wuhan”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-nv7j9HEgY
Midway through this news video is a dialog between officials(?) and a cremation facility. They’re overwhelmed with the amount of dead they have to pick up and cremate daily. The workers are going crazy trying to keep up and are exhausted.
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